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    D4RKDavid Tracy
    2/21/20 2:12pm

    Seems like half the car was replaced. My dad’s truck has 250,000 miles and he’s only replaced tires and brakes. I’ll stick to cars that don’t fall apart.

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      PorthosD4RK
      2/21/20 2:21pm

      The first like 200,000 were super low cost,” he said, but things went up dramatically from there.

      your dad has 150k miles to go.

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      COMTNDRVRD4RK
      2/21/20 2:22pm

      Your avatar is a Camaro.

      I can’t imagine why you’d select your dad’s truck. 

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    Margin Of ErrorDavid Tracy
    2/21/20 2:05pm

    “The first like 200,000 were super low cost,” he said, but things went up dramatically from there, especially after 200,000 miles.

    Yeah that’s usually what tend to happen with any car above that mileage, that is why most people will prefer getting a new one instead of keep throwing money at something that has zero market value. Also, this guy seems pretty adamant to replace everything that goes wrong.

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      PorthosMargin Of Error
      2/21/20 2:20pm

      yea, a bunch of these repairs seem like the kind of thing a typical car owner would just ignore.

      i’ve never heard of this company, but it sounds like they do their customers well by making sure their cars are in good shape (other than keeping them beyond 400k miles).  probably an expensive service as well.

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      millenialharleyMargin Of Error
      2/21/20 2:24pm

      Not a lot of other cars going for $30k at that mileage. Like damn.

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    CitricDavid Tracy
    2/21/20 2:22pm

    I think one of the big things is that you have a lot of staunch EV advocates showing up going “there’s no maintenance!”

    Nah, there’s lots of maintenance, but that’s fine, you’re going to have lots of maintenance in any car, and this doesn’t look like anything too crazy (except it eating AC compressors, but I don’t live in a desert.) Lots of stuff that you don’t have to worry about, and possibly cheaper to a point, but it’s still gotta be maintained.

    I’d rather buy this high-mileage but meticulously maintained ex-Tesloop vehicle than anything the “there’s no maintenance!” crowd would put on the market.

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      COMTNDRVRCitric
      2/21/20 2:30pm

      There was almost no maintenance before 100k miles. The only items were tires, wipers, and broken AC. That’s significantly less than most cars within the mileage range most cars are owned.

      And the tires can be chalked up to being a heavy, performance oriented vehicle. It being a maintenance hog after 200k doesn’t mean it’s a high maintenance vehicle. 

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      CitricCOMTNDRVR
      2/21/20 2:32pm

      Sure, but there still IS maintenance, and that’s fine. 

      I just hate the “there’s no maintenance!” attitude, because I’m open to EVs, don’t have a huge budget, and my god I don’t want to accidentally buy a used car from someone who thinks that it doesn’t need to be maintained.

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    Big Block I-4David Tracy
    2/21/20 2:23pm

    Is it just me or did this thing eat through rear tires like crazy? Unless they were constantly rotating  tires from front to back it was like every 30k miles while fronts were no where near as frequent.

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      COMTNDRVRBig Block I-4
      2/21/20 2:32pm

      I wish my tires lasted 30k reliably. 

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      TheBobmanNHBig Block I-4
      2/21/20 2:40pm

      Tires jumped out at me too.  For all highway miles it feels like they should last much longer.

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    OhThisPresumptuousShitAgainDavid Tracy
    2/22/20 4:46pm

    You’ll notice on the spreadsheet that, at 72,384 miles and 115,362 miles, the air conditioning compressor had to be replaced. “AC compressors are one that...we realized early on, was that they are not designed to be used around the clock,” Sonnad told me, pointing out that this Model X’s AC was in use pretty much all the time, as the car was driving through the desert.

    I live in the high desert and AC compressors are, in fact, used around the clock during the summer months because 112F. And yes, car AC compressors are used the entire time you’re in your car - for really obvious reasons.

    Two automotive AC compressor replacements within 116k miles is not normal.

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      David TracyOhThisPresumptuousShitAgain
      2/22/20 8:20pm

      Plus, in an EV, they’re used to cool the batteries.

      But yeah, it seems apparent that the replacement was faulty.

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      nov15-22OhThisPresumptuousShitAgain
      2/22/20 11:19pm

      No its not.  The first replacement was clearly faulty.  Of course the 2nd replacement lasted 275K miles (and counting).

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    krhodes1David Tracy
    2/21/20 2:38pm

    I’m not impressed. You can put a zillion miles on anything if you do it in short order by running the thing around the clock. I worked for a courier company in college that routinely got 500K+ (750K+ for the diesels) out of shittastik ‘80s Ford Escorts - and with MUCH less expense than exhibited here for repairs. You could buy a fleet of those things for what a Model X costs.

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      E. Vogelkrhodes1
      2/21/20 3:14pm

      You could, but not many people would want to pay for a towncar service that showed up in a clapped-out Escort. ;)

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      Elumererekrhodes1
      2/21/20 4:26pm

      Eh, the fluid and brake changes alone would amount close to the total cost displayed here.
      Let’s see: 30 dollar oil change every 10k: 1200$
      Transmission fluid change 60$ (?) every 30k: 800$
      Brake pads and rotors every 40k at about 600$: 6000$
      Tires, at about 600$ every 40k: 6000$
      Brake fluid bleeding every 40k at 100$: 1000$
      Wipers at 30$ every 40k: 300$
      Headgasket replacement (at least once): 1000$
      etc. etc. etc.

      And the hardest part to swallow (assuming 25mpg):

      Fuel at about 0.16$ per mile: 64000$

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    HammerheadFistpunchDavid Tracy
    2/21/20 3:34pm

    Im pretty impressed. New model from a new company with new tech should have more failures than this. That being said, it’s relatively easy on a car to do miles over a short time period, especially highway miles.

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    BlockheadsDavid Tracy
    2/21/20 2:15pm

    This is actually a surprisingly short (and cheap) list for an early year model of vehicle from a young car company, and a car that is loaded with weird/exotic features and complex designs.

    Given the complaints about Tesla’s build quality and the complexity they insist on having just so doors can open like this instead of this (imagine appropriate hand/arm movements), I was expecting at least 20 repairs to X-wing related sensors/motors/parts.

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      MaxYedorBlockheads
      2/21/20 4:14pm

      Back out the repairs on parts that likely only broke due to the car’s use as a town car and the ones nobody would make to their own high mileage car and it’s an almost unbelievably short and cheap list of repairs. The big ticket items all seem directly related to chauffeuring people around the desert, except for maybe the battery and drive unit failures, which were cheaper than similar failures you see in ultra high mileage ICE cars.

      The only drawback I still see is that working on a Tesla yourself is still frowned upon, many of those repairs are things I’d typically do myself, but that doesn’t seem entirely possible with a Tesla.

      The future is bright for those of us who buy cheap high millage used luxury cars, hooray!

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      QuadeMaxYedor
      2/21/20 5:10pm

      It’s worse than you might think. If you annoy them, they’ll boot you off the supercharger network.  If you buy a used Tesla, they can still connect and disable features in your car. 

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    CompasteedeeDavid Tracy
    2/22/20 10:40am

    This read to me like a few things:

    1. Tesla is a startup and is only a few models deep, there are going to be teething issues. The fender garnish pieces sticks out to me as a place that needs some attention. They don’t have everything figured out, they are hundreds of billions of dollars behind most auto manufactures in this regard. They have done not too bad, really.

    2. Electric torque is harsh on tires, and it is hard to resist the urge to use every inch of it available as a driver. I would be the same way.

    3. 200,000 is pretty decent for a car to be almost entirely maintenance free, no matter what you are driving.

    4. Electronics/electrical issues still have a way to go. I still don’t like the idea of a huge tablet on the dash. You know eventually it will go and it’s going to be costly. Batteries are also not a super reliable technology, but seems like Tesla has a decent warranty on them.

    Overall not bad.

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      Jack ShaftoeCompasteedee
      2/22/20 12:09pm

      I feel like a lot of this is stuff you’d expect from any car that racks up 400k miles in three years, and I’m no Tesla fan.

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      logimike32Compasteedee
      2/22/20 1:42pm

      The big screen on the dash is no doubt expensive but it is so much better than physical buttons. What I think too many ppl don’t realize is the screen allows the functions and UI to adapt over time. As new features are added or unneeded features are deprecated, they can be moved vs. buttons being hard-coded. Once you use the screen, you realize how antiquated physical buttons are much like how it took ppl a year or two to realize how superior the iPhone was over the Blackberry. 

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    AnthonyDavid Tracy
    2/21/20 3:20pm

    I’d like to see 2 cars run for the same mileage and time in the same fashion. One in California and one in Michigan, and compare the effects of weather and salt.

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      BuckusAnthony
      2/21/20 4:05pm

      You’d have to end the test about halfway through, because the one from Michigan would no longer be road-worthy :)

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      the other brakkaAnthony
      2/24/20 8:15am

      *compare the effects of weather, salt, and Michigan´s shitacular roads.

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