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    SpaceCopSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 2:13am

    god i can’t wait. this is the sort of impenetrable bullshit i’ve been missing in my life

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      Mr Smith1466SpaceCop
      11/01/19 3:13am

      I like a bit of entertaining ambitious nonsense now and then. Not all the time, but in a world where Bethesda wants to drain players for monthly Fallout 76 subscriptions, there's something comforting and endearing about Kojima making an earnest game about human connections and using piss to make grenades to fight monsters. 

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    Shinigami Apple MerchantSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 2:24am

    A weird game!?!? From Hideo Kojima!?!? Well I NEVER! :P

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    Good to hear Troy Baker gets a glorious chance to shine. That AAA + Oregon Trail style gameplay doesn’t look to be my thing, personally, but I look forward to reading many a discussion piece about this game’s various themes, to be sure.

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      Mr Smith1466Shinigami Apple Merchant
      11/01/19 3:10am

      Troy Baker is a brilliant voice actor, he just gets trapped in a lot of generic roles. When given the chance to cut loose, or given something with depth he always brings the goods. 

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      Shinigami Apple MerchantMr Smith1466
      11/01/19 4:22am

      Agreed completely. A lot of AAA games only utilize him for his Talion/Mordor style performances (which are solid but don’t tap into his talents the best). But you offer a Joel/Kanji Tatsumi/Booker DeWitt level character for him, and whoa, watch him soar. 

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    Robot_JoxSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 8:01am

    This game isn’t getting the best reviews, but the French seem to like it though. French sites are giving it glowing reviews. I guess murican’s are not too fond of Hideo’s political message.

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      MalingoRobot_Jox
      11/01/19 8:42am

      I don’t know. This seems like a pretty even handed and generally positive review. The Kotaku review is certainly heaping praise on it. Either of them only really mentions the political parallels as an aside.

      Besides which, I’d imagine you could take the clumsy politicising of the plot either way. Either your mission to ‘make America whole again’ is good and right, or being nice to people is a better way than using big business to ‘make America whole again’.

      Where have you seen reviewers who have been critical of that stuff?

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      Robot_JoxMalingo
      11/01/19 8:59am

      All of the major US gaming mags: IGN, Game Informer, Games Radar, and even tech mags like Ars Technica, and The Verge (which straight up called this game boring) are giving this game mixed, leaning on negative reviews, while Eurogamer and the rest of the European and Japanese press are giving it near perfect reviews. There clearly is a lost in translation, cultural/social/political disconnect here between American gamers who don’t seem to get or are not on board with the game and its message versus other countries that are.

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    MalingoSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 3:11am

    Sounds great and all, but having to rock a baby to sleep and not being able to carry everything you need sounds a little too close to home to enjoy.

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    Kirino SucksSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 2:22am

    So it’s Metal Gear meets Fallout New Vegas meets The Road meets The Good Place.

    That is the closest there is to a concise plot summary out there.

    D’Arcy Carden will definitely pop up somewhere telling Norman Reedus that degenerates like him belong on a cross.

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      0pala78Kirino Sucks
      11/01/19 10:33am

      You people who have reduce everything to “Its like *insert game name* + *insert game name* + *insert game name*... what the frik is wrong with you?  

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      Kirino Sucks0pala78
      11/01/19 6:24pm

      When you have a game this fucking complex, the easiest way to explain the plot is to definitely compare it to other forms of pop culture.

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    Jim Spanfeller, CEOSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 7:19am

    Hi Sam,

    I know it’s been a rough few days in the office but it’s time to come together under the new guidance. Video games have been explicitly assigned to Kotaku as a medium so this article, while I appreciate the effort that went into it, shouldn’t be on A.V Club. At some point we all have to make choices about where we best belong.

    Regards,

    Jim

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      JimSpangfellerJim Spanfeller, CEO
      11/01/19 1:50pm

      Hi Jim, on the offhand chance it’s you and not some flunky or some idiot with a really bad sense of humor.

      You should know that everyone who read in the Wall Street Journal about how you completely screwed up the Farmers Insurance ads has been laughing at you. That includes all of your peers in the private equity world and all of the partners in your business and everyone who works under you too. They’re all laughing at you behind your back, and some of them are smirking at you to your face.

      You’re a joke, a loser, and everyone thinks you stink. They’ve been reading about how you’re a failure all over the place — not just the Wall Street Journal but the NY Times, the Washington Post, insider business publications — and they laugh at how bad you are at the most trivial business transactions.

      You’ll never be good at this, and you will always be a joke to the people you try hardest to impress. But besides that, good luck, and better hope nobody turns you in to the FTC, SEC, or one of those activist state attorneys general that are looking for another slam dunk case. Are your financials able to stand up to any serious scrutiny? Do you really trust the people who work for you?

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      GalvaTron GuyJimSpangfeller
      11/01/19 5:30pm

      *Looks at usernames*

      I’m seeing double! Four Jim Spanfellers!

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    returning the screwSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 1:48pm

    Everything I've read makes it seems like a walking simulator unfortunately. 

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      TaumpyTearrsreturning the screw
      11/01/19 8:10pm

      Giant Bomb described at as a walking simulator, but like if Kojima heard the term “Walking Simulator” and took it literally and made in-depth mechanics for movement, weight, balance, terrain, like the way a “Flight Simulator” is super detailed and mechanics heavy, as opposed to when people say walking simulator to mean you just walk from story beat to story beat with little control or gameplay. I still don’t know whether that sounds like any fun, mind you, but it definitely is different from “hold forward until you make it to the next interactive object/lore fragment or whatever” that is what people commonly refer to as walking simulators.

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      returning the screwTaumpyTearrs
      11/01/19 10:01pm

      It sounds like the former. From what I understand you use the shoulder buttons to control your feet or something. You also have to balance packages as you move. 

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    Drinking with SkeletonsSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 8:11am

    It kinda sounds like the stamina management and climbing of Breath of the Wild taken to an extreme. No idea what to think of that.

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      TaumpyTearrsDrinking with Skeletons
      11/01/19 8:06pm

      The Giant Bomb guys described at as a walking simulator, but like if Kojima heard the term “Walking Simulator” and took it literally and made in-depth mechanics for movement, weight, balance, terrain, like the way a “Flight Simulator” is super detailed and mechanics heavy, as opposed to when people say walking simulator to mean you just walk from story beat to story beat with little control or gameplay. They also described it as “Encumbrance Management: the Game.” I’m really interested in this game, but goddamn does it sound like it might be a slog to actually play. They even mentioned the upgrades that make the game “more fun” might just feel that way because the game has been making you suffer so much that easing the pain tricks your mind into thinking its getting more fun. But one of them also said he has felt compelled to keep going back to the game, so maybe once you get used to the bizarre mechanics it can get under your skin... 

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      RobGrizzlyTaumpyTearrs
      11/02/19 11:13am

      the upgrades that make the game “more fun” might just feel that way because the game has been making you suffer so much that easing the pain tricks your mind into thinking its getting more fun.

      This is how I feel after people say Arrow got better after that handful of bad seasons.

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    MFN DixonSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 12:02pm

    It looks very cool and strange in a good way and the actors are amazing. If this is someone’s type of game then enjoy and I wish you all the best. We don’t all have to love the same things and when a game connects with you it’s an incredible experience.

    As someone without a horse in the race—so to speak since I liked Metal Gear 1 & 2 but haven’t played a Kojima game since—I probably have common outlook that many gamers will have.

    I’ve seen a number of reviews and videos from professional gaming sites and prominent YouTubers alike, and while the visuals, characters, cut scenes, and strange story are appealing and unique, it just looks like too much management minutia, and difficult traversal for an Amazon delivery simulator with apocalyptic, horror, and sci-fi elements thrown in. I say this as one of my genres are RPGs and obsessing over improving or getting the next sword, gun, or armor set. The detail in leveling up my skills and abilities. However, that’s the most grindy parts of that genre that I’m willing to put up with for the other parts of those games that I love, but it’s not why I play them.

    Without that same passion for this genre or gameplay, it just seems like a game that I wouldn’t want to play. If this were a movie though, I’d buy a ticket today. I can see from the footage and descriptions of those that have finished the game that there is a lot more meaning to it than that, but can I withstand the systems to get there is the question.

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    ModusoperandiSam Barsanti
    11/01/19 6:56am

    “Uh, kiddo, can you give me a hand here?”

    “’Sup, Dad?”

    “I think this video game is broken.”

    “It’s not broken, Dad, that’s how games are. God!”

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