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HuskyBroMichael Harriot
5/08/19 9:41am
I have to take my old ass down to the doctor’s office to get a measles shot because:
1) I still have PTSD from when I got chicken pox when I was 19 and damn near died.
2) because fucking Jenny McCarthy had some dumb hot takes and idiots listened to her bullshit and thought “seems legit” and went out, procreated and, lo, brought forth a generation of walking Petri dishes, corrupting the Earf with their 18th Century diseases and shit. Melissa, come get your cousin!
3) because I wouldn’t be surprised if black kids in the 19 dickery doos were getting placebos like we were all in a Jr. version of the Tuskegee Experiment and those vaccines were fake AF.

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  loracksHuskyBro
  5/08/19 11:23am
  Was just contemplating re-upping on my MMR vaccine, too. Because also old.
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  BlackMage2030HuskyBro
  5/08/19 11:58am
  Yeah, I too wonder about getting a booster. Apparently according to my mom I had some weirdo form of rubella and chicken pox twice - I live in a yuppie area and do NOT trust these bitches.
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skefflesMichael Harriot
5/08/19 9:41am
I will never understand the wilful ignorance of anti-vaxxers, ever. Even when the science is laid out for them they still are all like “but my personal feelings trump any and all actual evidence”. Wait, no, it is white entitlement, saying that they are center of the universe; now I understand it. Just vaccinate your kids, please people. Please?
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  Steve Viciousskeffles
  5/08/19 10:22am
  And these same fucking morons go to doctors and take medicine when they say, get a viral infection. Why? BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THAT DOCTORS KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT SHIT THAN THEY DO AND TRUST THEIR OPINIONS.
  Sorry not yelling at you. It’s just insane they refuse science in one situation and rely on it in others.
  Also anyone who doesn’t vaccinate their kids should get a knock on the door from CPS.
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  skefflesSteve Vicious
  5/08/19 11:04am
  Yell away. People who demand anti biotics for a viral infection are another pet peeve of mine. If you got a virus, then all you can do is treat the symptoms, maybe painkillers and decongestant, but that is it. And people who do need antibiotics but then don’t finish the course too. AGH!!
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StrangerSnacksMichael Harriot
5/08/19 10:44am
Just a note, people born in the late 60s through the mid 80s can and should check their levels/get a booster. I believe the highest risk is for 68-75 but you can easily double check that. Ask your doctor/pharmacist/local health department. I live in a measles free city that is unfortunately about 10 minutes from California. On the plus side, we have a shit ton of recent citizens and you can count on immigrants to get vaxxed.
Also-if you are an adult that has not been vaccinated and you haven’t had chicken pox go get the shot. Miss meals if you have to. Chicken pox can be a walk in the park for kids (I was 5 and barely sick) but it is brutal when you get it as an adult. My mom got it a couple years after I did (she was quarantined for pregnancy when I had it) and it was awful. Plus, you won’t get shingles! A commenter (here?) turned me onto the shingles vax recently but there’s a hella long waiting list and usually is only covered after you turn 50. So.
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  weapon-a the first try suffers no trollsStrangerSnacks
  5/08/19 11:26am
  “Just a note, people born in the late 60s through the mid 80s can and should check their levels/get a booster. I believe the highest risk is for 68-75 but you can easily double check that. Ask yourdoctor/pharmacist/local health department. I live in a measles free city that is unfortunately about 10 minutes from California. On the plus side, we have a shit ton of recent citizens and you can count on immigrants to get vaxxed.”
  I’ve read this several times in several different places and agree with it 100%. But... neither my primary physician nor my wife’s physician are on board. I was told during a visit with a specialist, that generally one’s antibody levels need to be tested to determine if a booster is necessary. Yet, my wife’s dr told her that she was fine based on when she got her initial vaccination 30+ years ago. No testing, no listening to my wife’s rebuttals.
  My physician simply refuses to call me back about this, despite my talking to his receptionist and nurses numerous times.
  WTF?
  I know I can’t be the only one with this experience. Are doctors just not taking this threat seriously?
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  BitterSweetStrangerSnacks
  5/08/19 12:40pm
  I second the shingles vaccine, if nothing else - I had shingles recently and, trust me, you do not want to get it. Aside from looking from an extra from the Walking Dead (I got it on my face!11!), it’s both excruciatingly painful, produces weeping blisters (in a beard for extra fun), and results in a super annoying itchy feeling that lasts for weeks as the nerves recover.
  The newer shingles vaccine is much more effective (thought it’s quite likely to make you sore or give you a fever for a day) and totally worth it.
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NotTodayMichael Harriot
5/08/19 10:57am
All of this has happened because of privilege. I know it’s a dirty word to some with lower reserves of melanin but allow me to explain. Americans have literally forgotten what some of these diseases can look like. They are about a generation removed from a close family member suffering through polio and even though health insurance is a joke in this country, a significant portion of us can run to the ER when our kid is running an extremely high fever from a preventable disease. Maybe we’ll work out a payment plan with the hospital, maybe not but either way, Americans have the the PRIVILEGE of rolling the dice with preventable diseases like the measles and chicken pox b/c they “don’t seem so bad”. The only reason they don’t seem so bad is b/c you can run out and get a fever reducer so that your kid doesn’t end up with brain damage or permanent hearing loss. But what if it doesn’t work??? I don’t think enough of us have seen what happens when there are complications to these “harmless” diseases (which developing countries have to deal with all the time).
My point is, this crap happens b/c Americans are too comfortable with the thought of “harmless” diseases. What about when the harmful diseases decide that America is the new hot zone? What about if there’s an Ebola outbreak here? What if bad actors decide we need to deal with smallpox again? Are the anti-vaxxers going to chance it then? If you don’t believe in the MMR vaccines then you don’t get the one for Ebola, Lassa fever, or any other hemorrhagic disease. Have fun bleeding through your eyes.
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  ZabellaNotToday
  5/08/19 1:08pm
  Vaccines are a victim of their own success - if they hadn’t done such a good job of eradicating horrible diseases, people would fear those diseases more than they do having a child on the autism spectrum.
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NegativeEdMichael Harriot
5/08/19 9:37am
Nice write up! Don’t forget, the rise in Autism is kinda linked to something specifically... older people having babies...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-link-between-autism-and-older-parents-is-clear-but-the-why-is-not/2017/12/15/dbe03284-dc62-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bd2b4014e620
And I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s older white people waiting to have children so they are ‘settled’. Haven’t done my research... but as a white person, I see it more in those white people around me.
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  flyingstitchNegativeEd
  5/08/19 9:57am
  Anecdotal, but I see just what you’re talking about. I’m going on 56, and our nest is about to be empty. But I have multiple peers (we’re all white guys) whose children are around 10. Which...first of all, doing the whole newborn thing in my mid-40s would have killed me. But I guess my friends are, as you say, well settled.
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  BlackMage2030NegativeEd
  5/08/19 12:07pm
  There’s also the shifting understanding of autism that took place in the last twenty years - what’s on the spectrum in 2019 might not be on the spectrum in 1999 or 1989. So many kids were “just, you know...that kid” before science started figuring shit out.
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Old white guyMichael Harriot
5/08/19 11:06am
There isn’t an iota of evidence that shows autism comes from vaccines
Oh please. That’s what THEY want you to believe!
They’ll also throw out fake numbers like 1 in 1000 people who get measles die.But just think if my child got autism! Sure, she’d be alive, but it would be more effort on my part and really, she couldn’t show me the love that my daughter would show me lying in her bed fighting off her whooping cough and asking me to end the pain.
And most of those deaths are in foreign countries without the healthcare we have. Like that kid in the Pacific Northwest who got tetanus because he wasn’t vaccinated, but he came through fine, after hundreds of thousands of dollars of hospital care.
Plus, in all my research, I’ve yet to hear from a single person who has died from contracting the measles. Sure, there are some who claim a relative has, but none who’ve died first hand. Seems pretty conclusive, huh.
But most importantly, you people and your fake science can try to push your “measles is bad” message, but I saw the Brady bunch, and Marcia got the measles and it was no big deal, so there! We call that utter proof!
Losers!
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Raineyb1013Michael Harriot
5/08/19 11:03am
People used to do that back in the day with chicken pox but now we don't because there's a goddamn vaccine for chicken pox. These dummies probably do the same with chicken pox because risking shingles is better than a shot apparently. These people are stupid selfish assholes who fuck shit up for everyone else. They're why we can't have nice things in this country.
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  Bowl Better TalkRaineyb1013
  5/08/19 12:57pm
  I am legit jealous that my sister’s kids got the chicken pox vaccine and my generation didn’t.
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  Raineyb1013Bowl Better Talk
  5/09/19 3:08pm
  Same.
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avocadoandrichfucksandwichMichael Harriot
5/08/19 9:28am
Thank you for this piece. I’ve been arguing that Caucasian, affluent and degree holding but uneducated women started the anti-vaxxer movement so they could be victims and pretend that they have struggles in their life It’s part of white people’s eternal victim complex.
I go hard whenever I hear someone spouting this bullshit. My wife does too. She’s pregnant, found out her measles vaccine isn’t effective during her pregnancy and cannot get the vaccine until she gives birth. So these people are like a live fire around her.
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MangoMojitoMichael Harriot
5/08/19 2:37pm
I got an MMR in 06 when I started grad school. But honestly, any time someone asks if I’m current on my boosters and wantnot I just tell that person to shoot me up full of whatever inoculations they want to give me. If white people want to die of perfectly curable diseases, that’s on them.
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  MangoMojitoMangoMojito
  5/09/19 10:48am
  To not ungray the asshole who commented. I started grad school in 06, but I was born in 1977. So I was vaccinated as a kid, but with one dose as was typical back then. So, eat a bag of dicks.
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Bowl Better TalkMichael Harriot
5/08/19 12:54pm
I recently made an appointment with my doctor to discuss whether or not I needed an MMR booster, because I was born in 1976 and thus might not have gotten the recommended two doses. (I think I probably did, because I come from a family of doctors who made sure I got all my shots, but I want to get titred just to be sure.)
tl;dr anti-vaxxers can go fuck a duck.
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