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ThirdAmendmentManMichael Harriot
3/11/19 12:53pm
The portrayal of the history lesson that has been reported is inaccurate, out of context, contains false facts and ignores the overwhelming support of Ms. Antinozzi from dozens of parents at the school.
Translated: The white parents were fine with it!
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  Optimistic PrimeThirdAmendmentMan
  3/11/19 3:25pm
  Yeeeepppppp
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  The Intersectional Feminist part dosThirdAmendmentMan
  3/11/19 5:14pm
  You got that, too, huh?
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mojrimMichael Harriot
3/11/19 3:13pm
I’ve been thinking on it as more and more of this shit comes out and one overwhelming fact becomes apparent: These cosplay exercises always put the white kids in power, basically reinforcing the extant narrative and showing them “slavery is a fun game.”
Try this, Becky: Reverse the roles. Put the white kids in chains and the brown and black kids in power. Run the exercise long enough to make it scary and exhausting. Have the “slaves” carry the “owner’s” books, stand in the back of the classroom, ask their permission to use the bathroom. You might actually get some kind of recognition.
Of course, white moms would descend on your school like a pack of velociraptors...
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  Rooo sez BISH PLZmojrim
  3/11/19 3:38pm
  The white parents aren’t the only reason they don’t do it like that. As you say, it’s either a negligently unconscious or a deliberately evil reinforcement of one historical power dynamic (even as it also leaves out the successful rebellions, which is negligent instruction in itself).
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  Very Dangerous Over Short Distancesmojrim
  3/11/19 4:23pm
  Exactly! Doing something like that would really make an impression. Or, if you absolutely must do some ‘special activity’ to get the point across about racism being bad, just run the goddamn blue eyes/brown eyes exercise!
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sTalkinggoat, first and last of his nameMichael Harriot
3/11/19 12:47pm
This shit has to be on purpose right? There have been like a half dozen stories of teachers doing this dumb shit in the last year and they still keep doing it. At least in my industry when someones does something stupid and gets public heat for it we all know not to repeat that mistake yet none of these teachers read the newsletter or hear the gossip? They must be doing this shit on purpose.
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  SquabblersTalkinggoat, first and last of his name
  3/11/19 12:53pm
  I wonder if this is in protest to not getting issued those revisionist history books they have in the South.
  Not really sure which is worse.
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  Vanessa FutrellsTalkinggoat, first and last of his name
  3/11/19 1:24pm
  Of course, they’re doing it on purpose! It’s fucken scary.
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KalxMichael Harriot
3/11/19 1:04pm
I’m surprised this bitch had enough black kids to corral for this bullshit. Bronxville is one of the wealthiest and whitest towns in Westchester County. The only black people you see are the nannies that push little Buffy and Skip around town.
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  sTalkinggoat, first and last of his nameKalx
  3/11/19 1:45pm
  Surely you must mean little Ryder and Jaxson.
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  Mr.DuckSauceKalx
  3/11/19 3:13pm
  You must mean Madison and Chad.
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Pretty TerryMichael Harriot
3/11/19 1:08pm
Well...
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Sorely VexedMichael Harriot
3/11/19 1:34pm
It’s interesting that we’re getting to see the linguistic shift of the phrase “out of context” in near real-time. It now seems to mean “entirely in context,” or perhaps, “knowing the context wouldn’t make a spit of difference.”
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  sauvageSorely Vexed
  3/11/19 3:24pm
  “It was taken out of context.” nowadays means “I really don’t enjoy being called out on it.”
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  ElCapSorely Vexed
  3/11/19 9:34pm
  It’s also got a curious undertone of arrogance. “You don’t understand what you’re talking about,” and/or “What you see is not what happened,” essentially.
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ThoseAreDigimonMichael Harriot
3/11/19 12:54pm
“To the extent anyone took offense to a small portion of the overall lesson that day, it certainly was never intended.”
I’m sorry if any of you !@#$%^& were offended.
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  Sorely VexedThoseAreDigimon
  3/11/19 1:35pm
  “It was only a little bit of racism, you guys! Come on!”
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sauvageMichael Harriot
3/11/19 1:13pm
What the motherfucking fuck?
For anyone to buy this as a failed attempt at a history (or empathy) lesson, it would have had to be the white students in chains being auctioned off, to see how that feels. As it is... yeah, I stand with my original assessment.
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  Rooo sez BISH PLZsauvage
  3/11/19 3:32pm
  It’s nobody’s accident that reversal is ever suggested.
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  IonizedDareRooo sez BISH PLZ
  3/11/19 5:52pm
  Meanwhile Jane Elliott’s BlueEyes/BrownEyes experiment
  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lesson-of-a-lifetime-72754306/
  is still viewed as controversial even though all the kids I know who went through it, including myself, looked back on it as life changing in a good way.
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Mr.DuckSauceMichael Harriot
3/11/19 12:43pm
I only read the headline, let me guess, somewhere upstate new york?
After finally reading where it was in the article, I am not surprised.
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  Rooo sez BISH PLZMr.DuckSauce
  3/11/19 3:34pm
  Westchester is not that far upstate.
  But you don’t have to leave Manhattan to read about it. The UWS and Tribeca are raising hell about integrated public schools, in 2019 - and students of color are still being systematically kept out of the top 10 public schools.
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  Meh-zuzahMr.DuckSauce
  3/11/19 6:16pm
  I knew it wouldn’t be in the NYC public schools, but it also couldn’t be too far upstate (e.g., Albany), as the headline says “black students”, implying there would be more than one unlucky role player in the class.
  Westchester sounds about right, as I’m sure this teacher thinks this is creative teaching and “value-add” experiential learning.
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cdwag14Michael Harriot
3/11/19 1:15pm
I think the story is missing the part where the black parents went to the school with baseball bats and crowbars and beat the shit out of the teachers that thought this needed to be done.
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  Rooo sez BISH PLZcdwag14
  3/11/19 3:33pm
  If you’re a parent of color in Bronxville you already know you don’t get to behave like that.
  You could probably sue the teacher and the school for IIED, though, because she’s not actually teaching history with that so-called lesson ... not without the actual successful rebellions. Yeah.
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