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    Not Enough Day DrinkingJason Johnson
    3/06/19 11:26am

    Why would a ballot have what amounts to “small print” unless you were trying to hide something?

    Computer person here. Bar codes are infinitely easier for computers to read than human readable text. Furthermore, if the name of person who the vote is cast for is already on the ballot, then any audit of the system would just have to compare the name on the bar code to the name printed on the same paper. You could audit the entire state’s vote in a few hours. You’re recording each vote twice on the same ballot for redundancy.

    I checked all your links and not one of them mentions bar codes as being a problem. From where did you come to the conclusion they were? Now all the other stuff about stripping people’s ability to vote and a corrupt procurement process sound like valid concerns, but the machines themselves sound like exactly the kind of machines everyone should be using.

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      Makes Me Wonder Why I Even Bring The ThunderNot Enough Day Drinking
      3/06/19 11:37am

      A voter should be able to verify their small (single vote) portion of the record.

      Bar codes are not human verifiable, and therefore don’t meet the above standard.

      Marked bubble near text is both human readable and scanner friendly, which should make it preferable for voting applications.

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      Not Enough Day DrinkingMakes Me Wonder Why I Even Bring The Thunder
      3/06/19 11:53am

      Bar codes are human verifiable. You just get a computer to read it to you. The computer doesn’t have to be part of the system either. It can be completely independent.

      Hell, the ACLU could even write an app that you can download on your phone that reads your ballot bar code so you could verify that the name you can already read and the vote you cast match.

      Marked bubble near text, is both human readable and scanner friendly

      Marked how? With a pencil like on the SATs? Yeah...that’s a recipe for disaster. What if the bubbles and the names are slighly offset? What if the voter used a pen instead of a #2 pencil? What if it looks like they tried to erase a vote? What if they marked 2 candidates in the single race?

      People are horrible at doing things. I don’t trust any group of people to do anything right. The only way to reduce mistakes is to create systems where people can’t screw up and even then you can only account for about 99% of people, because a percentage of people intentionally screw up so they can complain about it.

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    ThoseAreDigimonJason Johnson
    3/06/19 12:26pm

    Why would a ballot have what amounts to “small print” unless you were trying to hide something?

    if ( isBlackDistrict && isVoteForGovernorRace && isVoteForLibtard )

    {

    int a = getRandomNumberBetweenZeroAndOneHundred();

    if (a > 70) { flipToRepublican(); }

    else if (a > 50) { flipToBlank(); }

    else if (a > 40) { rebootVotingMachine(); }

    else if (a > 30) { summonTheKKK(); }

    }

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    GreatScottJason Johnson
    3/06/19 11:20am

    And Mitch is reaching into his bag of tricks too.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/06/trump-mcconnell-judges-1205722

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    Rooo sez BISH PLZJason Johnson
    3/06/19 12:09pm

    All there in the manual, with the research going back at least a year.

    But nobody wanted to read about it, because “electoral integrity” and related data on voting machines and their purchases is “abstract” and “boring”

     

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    Old white guyJason Johnson
    3/06/19 11:10am

    But remember, the most important thing is that not one illegal vote is cast.

    They never said they were concerned that votes were counted!

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    DouglasJason Johnson
    3/06/19 4:39pm

    Here in Washington State (And Oregon and California) we’ve been using paper ballots where you fill in the bubble for a long time AND we have universal mail in ballots. It works well.

    So why is it these other states are even arguing about this? Are they incapable of looking at examples of what works? Or is their corruption so great that they cannot even consider a system that prevents them from gaming the vote in their favor?

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      AdamDouglas
      3/06/19 4:56pm

      What protections are in place to make sure someone isn’t harvesting unwanted ballots from the trash at the post office?

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      DouglasAdam
      3/06/19 7:03pm

      You, like most people, utterly fail to understand how vote-by-mail works. 

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    ArtistAtLargeJason Johnson
    3/06/19 7:25pm

    America is the nicest 3rd world nation on earth!

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