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    Mud's Not Yer Buddy, PalMonique Judge
    11/26/18 7:53pm

    Put man who is trained to react to insubordination with violence in a building full of people for whom insubordination is akin to breathing.


    Only an idiot would think this was a good idea.

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      GodDamnTheseElectricSexPantsMud's Not Yer Buddy, Pal
      11/27/18 8:55am

      We will never run out of idiots.

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      PalpableLlamaMud's Not Yer Buddy, Pal
      11/27/18 9:31am

      Which brings up an entirely different question. Why is our society so ok with the fact that we are raising kids to be disrespectful in every facet of their lives? Generally, teachers barely make enough money to be the baby sitter/teacher/business hours parent that they are expected to be. Now they are having to deal with a generation of kids that act out consistently with no repercussion because they’ve seen our own media and politicians do it...so now it’s ok. I don’t have enough time to type out everything in my head...but man is this country fucked 

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    e36-burger-lordMonique Judge
    11/26/18 7:53pm

    Police officers are not trained for this. They have no business being anywhere near a classroom unless it’s for a life threatening emergency situation.

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      skefflese36-burger-lord
      11/27/18 11:27am

      I am increasingly of the opinion that our police are not trained at all.

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      sigmapapiskeffles
      11/27/18 11:34am

      Training has been substandard for years, focusing on the weapons, self defense, and laws.  All important, but little to nothing on conflict management, diversity, crisis control, or just being damn personable.  

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    BadOmbreMonique Judge
    11/26/18 8:23pm
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    I get mad all over again at that incident just seeing those pics. Ugh. Lawdamercy.

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      MajorBurnBadOmbre
      11/26/18 10:37pm

      Right with you. If we had her parent

      (and I believe she was orphaned when her sole parent died the previous year - queue Scrooge; “Are there no prisons, are there no Workhouses?”- ...)

      on tape chair slamming this legal child for a sassy mouth, that parent would be in jail. Fuck the beefy white dude; I’m glad he lost his job, I hope he fucking cried. Fuck every teacher who supported his rage tantrum on a child’s body. I hope his “longtime” Black girlfriend got the fuck out, and the fuck away from him too. In no way do I think he’s only has that excessive force “problem”at work.

      Good work though guys, you destroyed the last little bit of feeling a traumatised and orphaned kid had that school was a safe place for her. Since she was in foster care, she probably really needed that. Sick, racist assholes.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3293718/School-deputy-body-slammed-student-FIRED-emerging-smiling-home-teen-s-lawyer-claims-s-left-riddled-injuries-including-rug-burn-face.html

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    SistayogaMonique Judge
    11/27/18 12:28pm

    “They’re not going to want to do a crime and get arrested.”

    Say what? Do a crime? If you’re going to attempt to sound authoritative on any given topic, maybe try sounding like you actually know how to speak.

    That being said, everything he had to say is bullshit.

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      bigdamnheroesSistayoga
      11/27/18 1:12pm

      I was looking to see if anyone else commented on what a bizarre quote that was. And it starts with “When people see a police officer, most people are going to go away”... Huh? And this is supposed to mean this helps deter crimes in schools, that most people “go away” from cops?

      This guy's language sounds like that of a toddler, "go away" and "do crime". 

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      Sistayogabigdamnheroes
      11/27/18 1:18pm

      I almost included the whole quote, but “do a crime and get arrested” struck me as the most egregious part of it all. His limited vocabulary is definitely helping him to be taken seriously.

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    youralizardharryMonique Judge
    11/27/18 6:06am

    I’ve seen the right resource officer be an actual resource for students and bridge a lot of gaps they have in their lives. Every student needs an adult in the building they can go to (teacher, counselor, administrator), and resource officers can be that link.

    That said, the role needs to be clearly defined (they are not, generally, there for discipline), they need to be trained and they need to be vetted and trained about their inherent bias. Plus, open to examining that as their work over time. Even the right officer with the wrong school administrator can go south.

    It works when it is about community. It doesn’t when it’s about “safety” and “enforcement”.

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      sTalkinggoat, first and last of his nameyouralizardharry
      11/27/18 10:40am

      I mean if it was about community and bridging the gap the School Board could train people specifically for that job. People whoa re trained in deescalation and counseling who’s job performance wasn’t tied to arrest numbers. But really it’s about the school to prison pipeline and creating another avenue for cops to generate overtime.

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      youralizardharrysTalkinggoat, first and last of his name
      11/27/18 6:06pm

      I’d say it’s about money. No one wants to pay for a counselor, much less the team many school require. They won’t pay for training of staff, either.  With a police officer, it feels more concrete (I think the police in general have adopted the flack jacket and tool belt because it says “action” and gets funding). Even then, many communities don’t want to pay for it.  That’s why DARE lasted so long.

      So, the school gets a grant that lets the guy in part-time and then it finds its way into the budget and grows and.... Unfortunately, the school becomes revenue for the police department to keep a job. And they don’t put their most kid-friendly, trustworthy and appropriate person in the school, but the low-man or guy who needs a day shift.

      The ideal would be counselors, people trained in de-escalation, a crisis team (if the school needs such a thing) and a resource officer who knew the kids and could support those at-risk to stay out of the pipeline.

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    ElusiveCupcakeMonique Judge
    11/27/18 1:01pm
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    Did this little grey shit just copy and paste the plot to Lean On Me - A movie that is almost 30 years old? This grey has got to be a high school kid. There is no sound reason other than blatant stupidity and functional illiteracy that it thinks copying and pasting other people’s work is a good thing.

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      ElusiveCupcakeElusiveCupcake
      11/27/18 8:29pm

      FYI: Copying and pasting other people’s work is called plagiarism.

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    Old white guyMonique Judge
    11/26/18 7:43pm

    How about if we have school ‘resource officers’ who don’t spend time looking at their job as opportunities to arrest students and instead just walk the halls looking to keep fights or whatever from breaking out.

    They shouldn’t be used as bouncers of kids from the cafeteria or a class room. 

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    BadOmbreMonique Judge
    11/27/18 1:53am

    Kenneth Alonzo Anderson, an associate professor at Howard University, conducted a study focused on North Carolina middle schools and found no relationship between increased funding for school resource officers and reduction in cases of reported school crimes. Anderson told the News & Observer that legislators around the country should look at his findings before rushing to put more police officers in schools—especially in the aftermath of events such as the Parkland, Fla., shooting.

    And, of course, this is true of police numbers in general anywhere.  If there is such a thing as too few, there is certainly a case of too many.  Communities rarely think about the latter potential issue.

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    Shivaya NamahMonique Judge
    11/27/18 10:36am

    The only thing police are supposed to do in schools is respond to criminal complaints and enhance security protocols.

    Not deal with disruptive students. or faculty. Until it becomes a criminal issue.

    At best you simply standby to make sure it doesn’t get out of line, but you dont get involved.

    Similar to assisting to domestic. Standby while someone gets tehir belongings. Don’t intervene unless iTt becomes criminally neccessary. 

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    Dr. Chim RichaldsMonique Judge
    11/27/18 4:48pm

    Having armed police officers in our schools is akin to having Sodexo run our cafeterias: While there are tons of people who think it’s not a bad idea, there are thousands more who know how terrible it can be.

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