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    Ororo Munroe 2.0Monique Judge
    9/10/18 5:12pm

    Amber Guyger told authorities that she issued verbal commands that Botham Jean “ignored” just prior to her shooting him to death in his own apartment.

    Victim blaming didn’t take long. Just to recap, she (allegedly) walked into a dark apartment, yelled out something, and shot a man in what she assumed was her apartment. But the fact that they frame it as he “ignored” her, as opposed to just being confused as hell by this stranger wandering into his apartment and screaming at him, is appalling.

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      Monique JudgeOroro Munroe 2.0
      9/10/18 5:20pm

      Commentary about this incoming, because this is some bullshit. 

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      Ororo Munroe 2.0Monique Judge
      9/10/18 5:23pm

      NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE! I know she must be lying about something, but I can’t even pinpoint where the lie could be to make any sense of this

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    iculookinMonique Judge
    9/10/18 4:28pm

    That story still doesn’t make any sense. Also, randomly shooting into dark rooms is still murder.

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      kemperboydiculookin
      9/10/18 4:40pm

      to me even if her new story is 100% the truth it’s just detail it’s not good enough reason. She didn’t have a good reason to shoot without identifying herself, without seeing what or who was in the apartment.

      I don’t think it’s 100% true but the only guy who could refute it is dead so she gets to write the narrative.

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      GneissRoXiculookin
      9/10/18 4:41pm

      Enough time has elapsed in which she can now concoct a plausible explanation for murdering someone in their own apartment.  SMDH!

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    rusholmeruffianMonique Judge
    9/10/18 4:30pm

    A 15-hour shift? Holy shit, that’s insane. Police unions love those crazy 10+ hour shifts because they enable officers to live 100 miles from where they work and come in at odd hours to avoid traffic (and have time to work second jobs, even though big-city cops are grossly overpaid in this country relative to the actual danger of thier jobs). However, in every regard those extreme shifts are a danger both to officers (who are alarmingly likely to get into traffic accidents near the end of such shifts) and the public (who are interacting with officers who are exhausted and/or wired on stimulants a lot stronger than caffeine).

    Unfortunately, I find it enormously plausible that a cop who just came off a 15-hour shift, bleary-eyed and barely walking, would walk into another man’s apartment without noticing his floor mat and think that he was a burglar, and shoot first and ask questions later.

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      okiedokie1rusholmeruffian
      9/10/18 4:37pm

      With regard to your 2nd paragraph: A 15 hour shift? In tons of industries, especially finance, 15 hour days and 80+ hour weeks are the norm for weeks or months on end. I don’t see any doctors rolling into their pads during residency popping a few rounds into black dudes.

      Your 1st paragraph: Yeah, the police unions... I’m pro-union and will say that police unions generally suck for society in general.

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      kemperboydokiedokie1
      9/10/18 4:41pm

      Police Unions are very very good at representing their members. The issue is they don’t seem to care if the members are worth representing. I’m a Union rep and I’ve been told if your member is lying or doing things that are illegal walk away and don’t represent them.

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    sTalkinggoat, first and last of his nameMonique Judge
    9/10/18 4:30pm

    The “trained observer” managed to miss the bright red doormat with someone else’s name on it, entered an apartment and pulled her gun and fired twice at someone in the dark without bothering to identify what she was shooting at. They must receive top notch training at the Dallas PD.

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      nevertrustamonkeysTalkinggoat, first and last of his name
      9/10/18 5:07pm

      I think the root of the issue is that cops aren’t required or expected to balance their fears and impulses with responsibility and accountability. Walking into the wrong apartment and being scared is understandable, but it is not ok to blindly shoot at and try to kill the thing that spooked you. If you or I shoot randomly at things that spook us we are justifiably prosecuted and jailed. Cops routinely shoot at things that spook them and are let off the hook with no responsibility or accountability. They were spooked = good shoot (usually).

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      OhjeriussTalkinggoat, first and last of his name
      9/10/18 5:30pm

      Ok, maybe she didn’t notice the carpet. Our eyes get deceived. I suppose that could happen. But how many things did she have to not notice in order to confuse this man’s home with her own? She just missed a whole floor while parking. You’d think she would notice a lack of familiar cars parked around her. I’m not sure how the apartments are laid out, but I’m sure that there are visual cues to help avoid tenant confusion. Signs indicating the current floor. Different art/decorations, both displayed by the apartment and its tenants. Different apartment numbers so delivery men don’t deliver to the wrong place. And what cop leaves their apartment with ONLY the knob locked? No deadbolt? So that’s 2 locks that she somehow failed to notice not being locked.

      Even if she somehow missed all of these cues, do you not realize it’s somebody else’s home upon entering, even with the lights off? It wouldn’t smell like your home. It wouldn’t feel like your home. The energy would be off. The light from the building’s common area would illuminate enough of the entryway and home to allow you to notice that the furniture isn’t in the right place, that the lay out is all wrong. So fuck these excuses.

      I interrupted a break-in at my house several years ago. The first thing I noticed, in my own home, was the smell of another person’s perfume or cologne. I didn’t see the burglars, but I heard my back door shut. My adrenaline hit a redline, and I chased whoever out of my house & down the unlit alley behind my house (smart). I caught one of the people fleeing, and I was about to wreck his face when SHE said, “ don’t hurt me!”

      I stopped dead in my tracks. I’ve never hit a woman in my life, and I wouldn’t even though this bitch was running through an alley with her hands full of my shit. I’d had a long day at work, I was angry, I felt like I could have put my fist through a brick wall, and I WANTED to hurt this person. And I didn’t. Because I have an ingrained sense of morality that I adhere to. I also can make critical decisions in heated moments, where my judgement was clouded by fatigue, adrenaline, and emotions. I’m also not a trained police officer, who should be much more adept at making critical decisions in stressful situations. That’s their job. It is what they are paid to do with tax payers money.

      This woman murdered another human. Plain and simple. This isn’t manslaughter, or some “mistake”. She illegally entered another person’s home, did not alert the victim to her presence, did not identify herself as a police officer, and killed this man in cold blood. If you through out her occupation, how would this be treated anything other than a home intrusion and murder?

      The long list of excuses seems like a back story she figured out & told to responding officers when they arrived. It sounds like a lot of bullshit. And her occupation, especially after she showed such an amazing display of incompetence, shouldn’t be used as an excuse for murder. She murdered this man. And this was the best bullshit she could think of?

      Man, I’ll bet that the 3-month paid administrative leave she’ll get is going to be a brutally effective lesson for her. She maybe, probably, likely won’t break into another black man’s house and murder him any time soon. 

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    Yes...They Are Real!Monique Judge
    9/10/18 4:28pm

    I always thought the narrative was “just do what the cops tell you to do, and you won’t get shot”?

    -College graduate. ☑️

    -Regularly attended church. ☑️

    -Participated in school activities. ☑️

    -Grew up as a choir boy, LITERALLY. ☑️

    Sooo did any cop lovers or flag humpers try and dig up some dirt on him yet? Overdue library book? An accidentally missed Amazon Prime fee? Stiffed a girl scout for a box of tagalongs?

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      kemperboydYes...They Are Real!
      9/10/18 4:39pm

      Sounds like the cop didn’t say anything at all just walked into his apartment and shot him dead.

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      beemoney19Yes...They Are Real!
      9/10/18 4:41pm

      APPARENTLY his crime was not locking his own door.

      Also living above a gun owner with impulse control issues.

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    GPMonique Judge
    9/10/18 5:05pm

    “she issued verbal commands that Botham Jean “ignored” just prior to her shooting him to death in his own apartment.”

    So this is the nail they will hang an acquittal on.  

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      sTalkinggoat, first and last of his nameGP
      9/10/18 5:16pm

      1. “Full shift”

      2. “Didn’t comply with instructions”

      That’s going to be the whole defense. It’s someone else’s (the department? the mayor? The last suspect she arrested? black people in general)fault she was tired from working 15 hours. Which by the way I spent my entire twenties bouncing from school to job 1 to job 2 to sometimes (job 3) on barely any sleep. One time I poured salt in coffee thinking it was sugar. No one died. And also he didn’t comply with instructions because when you’re sleeping and someone walks into your home and you step out to see whats up and they start screaming at you in the dark then following instructions is the first thing you do.

      And the thing is, it will probably work.

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      bassguitarheroGP
      9/10/18 5:38pm

      Imagine chilling in your apartment, watching a movie in the dark, someone opens your door, comes in screaming at you, then shoots you for not immediately doing what they said.

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    TypicalBayAreaFanMonique Judge
    9/10/18 5:48pm

    Reportedly, the door to Jean’s apartment was unlocked, so when Guyger stuck her key in the wrong lock, the door opened.

    Hold the fuck on. Dudes door had to have been physically open if she went up and pushed the door open by trying to put her key in. Otherwise, EVEN IF the door was unlocked but secure, she would have put her key in, tried to turn it, and been like, “wtf?”

    I’m no locksmith, but when wrong key enter door, key no turn.

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      My Hovercraft Is Full Of EelsTypicalBayAreaFan
      9/10/18 6:15pm

      This is the part of the story that doesn’t make much sense.

      I can buy the part about parking in the wrong level in a garage, and thus ending up in front of the wrong door (same location on the floor as her own apartment, but one level up or down from it). I’m positive I’ve done this myself. It’s an easy enough mistake to make if you’re not paying close enough attention.

      But how are you then able to insert a wrong key into the lock and turn it? Usually, the wrong key can’t even be inserted into the lock, and if you can insert it, it definitely won’t turn, even if the door is unlocked.

      Either something is wrong with what has been reported about how she entered the apartment, or else she lied.

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      My Hovercraft Is Full Of EelsTypicalBayAreaFan
      9/10/18 6:49pm

      She probably could have physically entered the apartment. If the door only had an (unlocked) deadbolt lock, all she would have needed to do is turn the door handle in order to enter.

      But, like you said, she would have first tried her key in the deadbolt lock and found it didn’t turn. Wouldn’t that have been an enormous clue that this wasn’t her apartment?

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    Ugh.Monique Judge
    9/10/18 4:39pm

    Huh. K. Still killed a dude who was in his own goddamned house. Ain’t no way to smooth that over. At all.

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      GodDamnTheseElectricSexPantsUgh.
      9/10/18 5:27pm

      Watch them.

      You’ve never been as disappointed in a jury as you will be with this one.

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      Don'tDoWhatDonnyDon't DoesGodDamnTheseElectricSexPants
      9/10/18 7:21pm

      It’s too bad we will never see a cop on trial with a “jury of their peers”

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    Texan2203Monique Judge
    9/10/18 4:40pm

    This narrative has changed several times.   I heard yesterday that the door was locked and he opened it. But the one agency that should have taken this case, did. The Rangers while I don’t trust them a lot, is not her department.  So this is going to be interesting.   

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      bassguitarheroTexan2203
      9/10/18 5:43pm

      The Dallas PD couldn’t find a judge who’d okay manslaughter charges on this (wanting murder instead), but the Rangers could find a judge to approve manslaughter, so I’m not gonna hold out much hope.

      Honestly, every time the police kill someone, it should be federal. And the prosecutor should be from out-of-state.

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      Texan2203bassguitarhero
      9/10/18 5:58pm

      That’s what I would like but we get what we get.  This is murder. Period.  

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    JustMy2CentsMonique Judge
    9/10/18 4:40pm

    I understand she’s not a detective or investigator but just a cop. But how to you not notice a bright red mat in front of the door? Instincts or something should have kicked in to tell her she was at the wrong unit.

    I’ve gotten off on the wrong floor before and almost tried to enter someone else’s apartment.

    Although all the doors are the same color I could tell that something was off each time. The paint on the door looked different (even tho it was the exact same color”. The scent coming from the other side of the door smelled different. Hell even once I noticed a door mat and thought “did my roommate buy this?” but I still looked up to realize that the unit number wasn’t mine.

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      rusholmeruffianJustMy2Cents
      9/10/18 4:57pm

      You presumably weren’t hopped up on goofballs after a 15-hour shift on a big-city police force

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      goddessoftransitoryJustMy2Cents
      9/10/18 5:26pm

      I’ve done that a couple times and had my key at the lock before I realized oops, this isn’t my door! Luckily I wasn’t coming off a fifteen hour shift and armed.

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