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OMG!PONIES!Anne Branigin
7/16/18 10:26am
“I apologize to the children who were directed to leave a city pool because of the religious-required clothing they were wearing.”
Congratulations to Mayor Purzycki for admitting on the record that your city violated these people's Constitutionally-protected rights.
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  MajorBurnOMG!PONIES!
  7/16/18 10:40am
  That got me too.
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  The Intersectional Feminist part dosOMG!PONIES!
  7/16/18 2:30pm
  What a dumbass.
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kafrometAnne Branigin
7/16/18 10:08am
I will bet you $100 that anyone supporting kicking these kids out of the pool “because the rules say” would also rail against “immodest” swimwear on young girls.
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  MajorBurnkafromet
  7/16/18 10:40am
  Yes and no. I have much more trouble finding my daughter swimsuits with a “rash guard” (that UV blocking swim shirt) than my son. Not quite sure why so many little kid’s bathing suits are ruffled bikinis, (probably to let you know they’re female and police them accordingly) but here we are.
  Swimsuits become more “immodest” based on the size of the breasts or posterior of the woman wearing them. I do not mean ill fitting suits, I mean that the same suit on a smaller breasted woman is seen as acceptable, but on a larger breasted one, it’s seen as purposefully salacious. WOC are even more policed. So, the illusion of modesty often depends on the body type and skin color of the girl.
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  RobertSmithsOrangeLipstickkafromet
  7/16/18 11:04am
  Probably not unless the girls were too ‘well developed’. Then it would undoubtedly mostly be non-white girls having to leave.
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MajorBurnAnne Branigin
7/16/18 10:48am
This sucks, and maybe Ms. Ismaa-eel can contact CAIR and the ACLU for their thoughts on being asked to exit a pool due to religious garb.
Cotton apparently can lead to the clogging of pool filters or hold some amount of bacteria, but I’m not sure that this relatively small group of swimmers is doing measurable harm to the pool.
Perhaps CAIR or another appropriate party could do a fund or donation drive to provide Muslim girls with limited finances some Burkinis, or other halal swimwear.
(Just looked online, these suits are like $65-$75 a suit. Kids generally need a new suit each year, and if you have a couple kids, that adds up.)
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  dwaynesliberalgunshopMajorBurn
  7/16/18 11:04am
  I dont understand how they can swim in that crap. The feeling of wet clothes clinging to my skin drives me insane.
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  RobertSmithsOrangeLipstickMajorBurn
  7/16/18 11:10am
  I actually just asked about the cotton issue so thanks for the info. It would be great if the community could come together to help families obtain appropriate swimwear or, even better, fund renting out a private pool for the group several times during the summer. Because, ultimately, it’s not just about the swimwear. Depending on who you’re dealing with those kids could be dressed as appropriately as possible and someone would find some reason to complain.
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ARP2Anne Branigin
7/16/18 10:11am
(White) people complain that Muslims don’t share “American” values, but when they try to engage in activities that would be considered “American” they’re not allowed to do so.
As a random side-note: More Protestants (read: Evangelicals) than Muslims want religion to be infused into our government.
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  SpeakTruthDudeARP2
  7/16/18 10:42am
  In 2010 France became the first European country to ban the burqa and niqab in public. In 2014 the European Court of Human Rights upheld the ban but said the law could appear excessive and encourage stereotyping.
  The burkini has been banned by more than a dozen municipal authorities, primarily in the south east between Nice and Marseille where there is a strong Muslim population.
  Prime Minister Manuel Valls told the Marseille-based La Provence newspaper on Aug. 17 that beaches and other public spaces needed to be protected from religious expression, saying the burkini was a sign of the subjugation of woman.
  “There is an idea that women, by nature ... are impure and should be covered up. That is not compatible with the values of France and the Republic. Confronted by such provocations, the Republic must defend itself,” he was quoted as saying.
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  Zoidbergh55ARP2
  7/16/18 10:42am
  White ISIS
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HoustonDude2016Anne Branigin
7/16/18 11:25am
I have little kids and often am in a pool. When it is brutally sunny, I’ll wear a shirt/rashguard made of lycra or something like that, but there are times I forget and just wear a light cotton t-shirt.
You know who has never had anyone say anything about that? This middle-aged pudgy White dude right here.
This was absolutely racism and religious discrimination. Not a peep would have been said to white dudes wearing t-shirts.
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  YesButNoButYeahHoustonDude2016
  7/16/18 11:32am
  There are ALWAYS people wearing cotton t-shirts in public pools, and no one says shit to them.
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  Too Grey to FunctionYesButNoButYeah
  7/16/18 12:40pm
  But I do make comment to my friends bout how stupid they look.
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mjskyeAnne Branigin
7/16/18 3:15pm
Did some “research” on the cotton thing: cutoffs are bad because of the threads. Otherwise, there is no sane reason to not wear cotton in a swimming pool. Some sources cite safety, because cotton absorbs, but a couple extra pounds (at most) on a child in the shallow end, full of summer energy, is nothing. Other sources cite cleanliness, that the cotton can transmit “diseases” and pickup “chemicals.” If the pool is maintained properly there is no issue w/ “diseases” and, yeah, wearing chlorine soaked clothing for an extended time (like being in a pool surrounded by pool water) isn’t a good idea. I think moms know this.
In effect, it’s another dumb excuse for racism.
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  Tool of the Matriarchymjskye
  7/17/18 1:01am
  Otherwise, there is no sane reason to not wear cotton in a swimming pool.
  First off, let me say the way the selective enforcement of this policy was obviously racist AF. And kicking out a group of patrons because “the pool is too full”? GTFO with that. Keep an eye on the numbers and don’t let people in if the pool is too full, you fuckers, don’t ask THE GROUP OF BLACK MUSLIM KIDS to leave. That’s bigotry obvious enough to make Jeff Sessions wince.
  However, the policy itself is reasonable. My son, who’s the manager of a public swimming pool in Australia, says there are genuine reasons why cotton (let alone wool - who the fuck tries to wear wool into a public pool??) is a problem. Even intact cotton garments shed tiny fibres which, over time, seriously fuck up the filtration system. Also, if cotton clothes are allowed, a lot of people just walk up in the street clothes they’ve been wearing for the last week and jump in the pool. Then the water’s dirty and you’ve got to dump in a heap of chlorine, and then you’ve got people complaining their skin and eyes are burning and asthma attacks left and right from the smell. Lycra or synthetic swim wear don’t shed and aren’t very comfortable to wear out of the water, so they’re more likely to be clean. And if sun safety is an issue, a cotton shirt gives bugger all protection if it’s wet. In short, “no street clothes” is such standard policy in Australian public swimming pools I’m surprised to hear it isn’t so elsewhere.
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HuskyBroAnne Branigin
7/16/18 10:13am
The policy doesn’t specifically outline what constitutes “proper attire,” except to list “cut off jeans” as an example.
Thanks ~~Obama~~ Daisy Dukes
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Father JohnAnne Branigin
7/16/18 10:13am
the stupid defense of “cotton, socks, shorts, shirts, etc.” in the pool is unsanitary or gross makes zero sense. no matter what, people’s dirty assholes, genitals, armpits, or whatever are soaking freely in that community bath tub no matter what they are wearing.
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  MajorBurnFather John
  7/16/18 12:05pm
  You are technically supposed (either by law or strong suggestion) to bathe your hair and body with soap and water prior to entering the public pool or hot tub.
  Not that I don’t see little old ladies in the gym Jacuzzi with makeup/makeup remnants, loud perfume, dry salon-set hair, and earrings and other jewelry. I guess old white people are anti bacterial and hypo allergenic.
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  bondbabeFather John
  7/16/18 12:59pm
  Amen! And those people who pee in the pool.
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AmericaWhat??Anne Branigin
7/16/18 10:43am
“Wilmington Deputy Chief of Staff For Policy and Communication John Rago says the cotton clothing is a safety issue, and that a new set of guidelines to be posted prominently at public pools …” Huh? How is swimming in cotton a "safety issue" ?? What did people swim in before polyester was invented-i.e. 1941??
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  MajorBurnAmericaWhat??
  7/16/18 12:00pm
  Apparently they swam in Polio. Also wool garments. Full of Polio.
  https://vintagedancer.com/1920s/1920s-swimsuits/
  https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/blog/polio-and-swimming-pools-historical-connections
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LawrenceAnne Branigin
7/16/18 1:33pm
If these kids were not minorities, it is unlikely that the “no-cotton in the pool” rule would be enforced. Unfortunately, there are a lot of pool owners and public pool supervisors who will enforce it (including my neighborhood pool). Everyone needs to know that Cotton does not belong in the pool for a number of very valid reasons. Google it.
That said. I’ve been kicked out of public pools for being Black with no other legitimate excuse. I know how stinging it feels. Hell, I’ve been kicked out of an apartment pool that I rented out ($400) and get this... Me and most of my guests weren’t even swimming in it.
Don’t forget. This is America.
Just start a go-fund me for the kids to get nylon head wraps. I will donate. Don’t let this discourage those girls from swimming or learning to swim.
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