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    eoghan01Michael Harriot
    7/02/18 11:53am

    The monuments, statues and icons are a historical fact. And whether you like them, disagree with them or are on a zealous mission, there is no valid excuse for depriving the next generation of them in order to rewrite or sanitize what actually was

    Funny, because these same folks are obsessed with sanitizing history by pretending that the Confederacy fought for liberty or states rights or respect, rather than admitting that the war was about slavery. They also want people to stop talking about racism so much, and let’s pretend that the history of the continent began when Europeans started colonizing a pristine, empty North America.

    Taking down monuments that celebrate slavers and traitors is the opposite of sanitizing history. It’s taking history seriously and saying that, although people fought and died to preserve slavery as an institution, we’re done pretending that this was a noble cause.

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      Done So Doneeoghan01
      7/02/18 12:19pm

      This particular asshole is a twofer. Fought in the Seminole Wars geneocide as well as for the confederacy. 

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      Vigoreoghan01
      7/02/18 12:42pm

      I dont need to go to church anymore, with you doing all this preaching

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    Manitos, The Tiny Hands of TrumpMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 12:03pm

    The monuments, statues and icons are a historical fact. And whether you like them, disagree with them or are on a zealous mission, there is no valid excuse for depriving the next generation of them in order to rewrite or sanitize what actually was.

    There actually is. Without the proper context, there is only the veneration of the past. Statues are not there to present a critical past, but instead to celebrate it. This is the sanitized past, one devoid of meaning and offered up with no explanation.

    This is censorship of the worst kind—the rewriting of history or the hiding of it from public view.

    Since 1877, with the end of Radical Reconstruction, rewriting history is ALL this country has done, both North and South. In order to appease the South and promote a unified nation, the “Lost Cause” was promoted above all other narratives and voices. These were not insurrectionists, but instead noble freedom fighters, hanging on to their way of life.

    We are the caretaker generation. We have no right to censor history for coming generations.

    No one is censoring history. Statues that venerate evil men are being removed from taxpayer-funded areas. If you want to present an uncensored past, raise the appropriations for the NEH, have more tax dollars go to museums, improve the level of history education in this country.

    But she doesn’t want that. She wants to be coddled and unchallenged about her past.

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      Silverware GorillaManitos, The Tiny Hands of Trump
      7/02/18 12:48pm

      “in order to rewrite or sanitize what actually was.”

      ...isn’t that what confederate statues do...? Confederates openly and violently rebelled against their country, and then they were honored for over 100 years for doing so...

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      LorraineGManitos, The Tiny Hands of Trump
      7/02/18 12:59pm

      Brilliantly stated!

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    Pretty TerryMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 11:53am

    Mary Stevens can eat a big fat dick.  As can all the people who clapped for her.

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      Done So DonePretty Terry
      7/02/18 12:15pm

      So crude! Miz Mary is gonna have an attack of the vapors hearing language like that. And then what? Thanks to a “temporary and incredibly vocal and insistent minority” she hasn’t been able to buy herself a little black girl to comb that feminized version of Trump’s hairstyle she’s sporting and tuck her into bed.

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      AmericanPretty Terry
      7/03/18 2:15pm

      That’s racist

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    GizmoKakaMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 12:23pm

    So she’s comparing Confederate statues to:

    • Palmyra and its famous The Temple of Baal;
    • Mar Elian Monastery: Dedicated to a 4th-century saint, it was an important pilgrimage site and sheltered hundreds of Syrian Christians;
    • Apamea: A rich Roman-era trading city;
    • Dura-Europos: It housed the world’s oldest known Christian church, a beautifully decorated synagogue, and many other temples and Roman-era buildings;
    • Mari: located in Mesopotamia, the most northerly of all the Sumerian city states, which became a city-state from about 2900 BC until circa 1760 BC as a strategic stronghold between Sumer and the city states of Syria and northern Mesopotamia. It was destroyed in the 24th century BC and only revived when the Amorites succeeded the Sumerians; later sacked by Hammurabi’s Babylonian empire eighteenth century BC;
    • Etc.

    This lady is on some wickedly potent cocaine supremacy because to equate the taking down of this one statue of a traitor with ISIS destroying what is the shared heritage of humanity is, by far, the zenith of hubris of a particularly white kind.

    It’s just infathomable the logical twists to make this comparison. She’s insane.

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      LorraineGGizmoKaka
      7/02/18 1:10pm

      This person nor her demographic have any idea of the sites you name. The blatantly illogical allegiance to the noble cause was and is asinine. We have books, battlefields and other publicly funded artifacts from this period, enjoy those and leave this Don Quixotesque crusade alone. 

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      PsiPhiGrrrlGizmoKaka
      7/02/18 1:44pm

      She’s probably just repeating the strategy from a racist talking head she’s seen on TV. First, she presents a mix of half-truths and outright lies.  The follow-up to her messed up “history” lesson is to get people on her side by saying the other side is full of terrorists.

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    Done So DoneMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 12:03pm

    There’s a certain delicious irony in her stanning for a confederate general who was relieved of his command. 

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      KhukhullatusDone So Done
      7/02/18 12:12pm

      True, but ultimately they were sort of all relieved of their command.

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      crouching tigerDone So Done
      7/02/18 3:52pm

      Same with Braxton Bragg. One of the worst generals on the Confederate side, barely made it out of West Point, and gets a fort named for him in NC? I don’t get it. Why does the US Army hate America?

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    JudMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 12:53pm

    This is why the North should have gone “scorched-earth” on the South when they defeated them. When you get them down, you step on their head, then it`s over. But they didn’t do that, the were all conciliatory and welcome back my brother to the fold and so on. And now, 150 years later, we’re still fighting about it.

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    BiturbowagonMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 1:21pm

    What she does not want you to think about, and probably she doesn’t want to think about herself, is just how much she is like ISIS.

    Isis used force and intimidation to subjugate a population, just as her fellow Confederates did to slaves, and to ex-slaves after the war.

    ISIS used propaganda to try to validate their lies and their brutality, just as Lost Causers did when they erected the Confederate statues and bestowed other honors on the traitors and seditionists of the Confederacy.

    I could go on. I bet that many of you can reply to this message with more examples.

    When she looks in the mirror, she sees the face of an ISIS-like apologist.

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    onecockringtorulethemallMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 12:53pm

    Can we stop with the food references? I only eat unseasoned Chicken breast, Ground Turkey, Kale, broccoli, spinach, white rice, brown rice, sweet potato, white potato and carrots right now. 3200 kcal quantities. spread across six meals. My existence SUCKS! At this point, I’d gladly eat Mac and Cheese with Brussels spouts.

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    PaulMooneysTongueMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 9:17pm

    So this woman has serious Gone with the Wind fantasies, huh?

    In her idolization of the past, does she even realize that how fucked up it was for women back then as well. She would have been the equivalent of OfSteven back then.

    Will someone get this woman hip to the latest hobby at Hobby Lobby. Please. 

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    BiturbowagonMichael Harriot
    7/02/18 1:29pm

    On another note:

    Wow, I’m proud of the people in the grays today!

    With a topic like this, that’s where a lot of ugliness can reside. But at least as of when I’m typing this, there’s a lot of excellence down there today. I brought several of them out of the grays. Thumb’s up! 

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