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    hocuspocusoctopusAngela Helm
    2/03/18 1:32pm

    “he couldn’t “detect anything wrong” with Stephen Paddock when he sold him 720 rounds of ammunition.”

    Oh I don’t know. I’d say anyone wanting that much ammo at once is not okay.

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      myopicprophethocuspocusoctopus
      2/03/18 1:43pm

      Anyone who would sell someone that much ammo is LESS okay than the fucked up person buying them.

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      Natehocuspocusoctopus
      2/03/18 1:51pm

      Lots of people buy stuff in bulk. Economies of scale work for bullets too. And recreational shooters can easily unload a few hundred rounds in a days worth of shooting in the Arizona dessert.

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    kevikevshowAngela Helm
    2/03/18 1:31pm

    Accountability is a bitch, right? NRA comes save your boy

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      FredCee71kevikevshow
      2/03/18 1:36pm

      Oh you know they will. The NRA doesn’t work for “responsible gun owners;” they work for gun and ammo dealers. Can’t have their primary constituents being “oppressed by the gubmint” for frivolously doling out instruments of death...

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      Rooo sez BISH PLZkevikevshow
      2/03/18 2:35pm

      NRA better keep still. They’ve been named, as a group, as a possible party of interest in the Mueller probe.

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    PaulMooneysTongueAngela Helm
    2/03/18 1:53pm

    CBS News reports that Haig, 55, said he met Paddock at a Phoenix gun show in the weeks before the shooting. The aerospace engineer reportedly sold ammunition as a “hobby” for about 25 years

    I can’t even wrap my brain around this. Whatever happened to stamp collecting?!?

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      wombat23PaulMooneysTongue
      2/03/18 1:54pm

      you ever try to shoot a stamp out of a gun? gums up everything.

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      ARayPaulMooneysTongue
      2/03/18 2:03pm

      Yeah, I can’t relate to selling anything as a hobby. You sell stuff to make money. Or I guess sell weed to pay for your own weed, but outside of that, I don’t understand.

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    thelasthalfdonutAngela Helm
    2/03/18 1:29pm

    “how was I to know that a man I sold hundreds of rounds of ammo could be dangerous!?” That disingenuous bastard has some nerve. 

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      ArtistAtLargethelasthalfdonut
      2/03/18 2:17pm

      That amount of ammo is NOT unusual.

      Go hang out at your local hunting and fishing store for a day and see how much ammo gets sold.

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      Archaeyopterix MajorusArtistAtLarge
      2/03/18 2:28pm

      There are a lot of people just being intentionally obtuse now in order to get their dose of self-righteous pile-on orgy.

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    Rooo sez BISH PLZAngela Helm
    2/03/18 2:34pm

    So … they’re going to charge the person with the store as some type of accessory because they have to have a scapegoat and they figure his corporate assets will be better able to absorb the losses (and also they’re wary of that eye Robert Mueller’s team has on the NRA and they don’t want scrutiny on themselves for being negligent in apportioning some part of the blame on a gun violence facilitator) – but the shooter himself still escapes charges even as child pornography was found on computers belonging to him AND to two of his male relatives, warranting at least further investigation & scrutiny of that family unit...??
     

    huh

     

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      JulietRooo sez BISH PLZ
      2/03/18 2:51pm

      He broke the law when he made the ammunition. The authorities probably found his name on a receipt in Paddock’s stuff. If they were after scapegoats, they’d charge every merchant who sold him guns and shooting supplies.

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      HalfpastdrunkoclockRooo sez BISH PLZ
      2/03/18 3:22pm

      Well... The shooter can’t be charged with anything because you can’t charge a dead man. I actually think that’s one of the reasons they’re going after the person who supplied the ammo if not *the* reason they’re going after the ammo guy.

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    Vanessa FutrellAngela Helm
    2/03/18 2:13pm

    For fuck’s sake, a man walks into Haig’s store and buys 720 rounds of ammunition, including armor-piercing, and tracer bullets. And Haig claims that he “couldn’t see anything wrong with the guy”.

    Haig knew exactly how Paddock intended to use that ammunition, especially the custom made tracer and armor-piercing bullets. I hope that Haig is convicted and rots in prison.

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      wombat23Vanessa Futrell
      2/03/18 3:36pm

      i didnt read that paddock bought armor piercers. it seemed he bought ammo with tracers in them, and he was seperatly charged with the federal crime of making armor pierces. like he was already in trouble for the ap rounds, and then it was noted that he sold to paddock. it doesn’t seem from the article he is being charged in conjunction with the lv shooting, just the ap ammo. furthermore, while i don’t shoot, having worked with some gun enthusiasts, who have had zero problems with the law, going to shooting range and firing away is a thing for them. and they go through a lot of ammo. so really can we say that it was out of the oridanary? I would be interested in hearing what people who shoot say, this may very well be not unusual.

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      justarandomguywombat23
      2/03/18 4:06pm

      hello, I am an avid shooter and collector of firearms. 720 rounds is not a lot, especially when buying in bulk. I can go to the range and go through 200-300 rounds easily in about an hour or 2. It’s simple supply and demand. buying in bulk is cheaper when you know you’re gonna shoot a lot in the long run. I go to the store and buy groceries, and i’d rather buy the box of 30 granola bars for cheaper than 5 boxes of 6 bars. And it comes down to state laws when dealing with tracer and armor piercing ammo. But just to reiterate, 720 rounds may seem like a lot, but in the long run it really is not if you plan on going to the range a few times a year and more. When i buy in bulk, it’s usually in increments of 500 or 1000.

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    BadOmbreAngela Helm
    2/03/18 5:41pm

    BTW, you white folks - and yeah, it’s you - gunsplaining throughout this entire thread about what’s normal and what’s not? You’re the goddamn problem. If this is “normal,” that’s the problem. You “sport” shooters and “hobbyists” have human blood on your hands, too.

    Be better people.

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      Jeff PulaskiBadOmbre
      2/03/18 5:51pm

      I tend to think anyone not advocating the repeal of the second amendment is not part of the solution. Guns aren’t going anywhere without that.

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      PerfectlyflawedJeff Pulaski
      2/03/18 9:01pm

      #1 it’s the bill of rights, no repeals

      #2 who’s going to enforce that repeal? People with guns...the same cops you distrust and hate

      #3 You, Jeff, would’t last 2 weeks into the uprising a repeal attempt would cause

      Fool

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    ArtistAtLargeAngela Helm
    2/03/18 2:18pm

    He’s right. Unless it’s obvious, no one can read other people’s minds.

    However making armor piercing ammo without a license is fucking stupid.

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      acornArtistAtLarge
      2/03/18 5:34pm

      Also, that’s the fucking reason we need better background checks for these types of purchases because no one reasonably expects some vendor to be able to “read someone’s mind” or tell just by looking at someone whether they’re a violent person or not.

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      ArtistAtLargeacorn
      2/04/18 3:09pm

      There are currently NO background checks when buying ammo.

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    ThirdAmendmentManAngela Helm
    2/03/18 3:27pm

    I don’t blame this guy for his role in this mass murder. I think the fact that selling 750 rounds, including tracer rounds, isn’t really a big deal just goes to show the gun problem in the US. The fact that wanting 750 rounds to shoot off with a bump stock rifle just isn’t cause for concern shows how dangerous gun culture is.

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    BadOmbreAngela Helm
    2/03/18 5:34pm

    Don’t ever trust no man without lips.

    I am actually surprised this man was charged with anything. I hope it’s not the last person charged. All of these free-wheeling firearm “hobbyists” need to find another hobby. These aren’t model plans or ships-in-a-bottle.

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