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    Smokin' Phil JeffriesDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:19pm

    So I guess every Woody Allen movie will now just produce a string of “how could they work with Allen?” articles. I guess it could be interesting if it was nuanced, but it never is.

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      Stuff N FluffSmokin' Phil Jeffries
      12/07/17 3:24pm

      People ~could~ just stop working with him.

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      Smokin' Phil JeffriesStuff N Fluff
      12/07/17 3:32pm

      I’d be happy if they did. I’m not defending Allen, just weary of the lack of effort put into these articles of late.

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    Disqus_trash_posterDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:22pm

    Let’s face it: we are all wondering what the 2018 academy Awards are going to look like. My money is most of the host’s jokes will revolve on the theme of “well just when we thought we figured out how to represent people of color, turns out we are horrible to women too!”

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      natureslayerDisqus_trash_poster
      12/07/17 3:24pm

      Except people of Asian descent. You can still make racist jokes about them during the Oscar telecast as of 2 years ago.

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      WhyCantYouDeleteKinjaAccounts?natureslayer
      12/07/17 3:31pm

      What’s this in reference to?

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    Holden MartinsonDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:20pm

    All Kate Winslett has to say is, “I get that he’s a scumbag, but he’s an artist who is capable of good work, and I’d like to be a part of that, because it might be really good for my career.” To me, that’d be far less offensive. Still shitty, but it doesn’t deny anyone’s trauma. It just says she doesn’t care about it.

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      KatmanduHolden Martinson
      12/07/17 5:18pm

      Cate Blanchett was just as bad when she was campaigning for her Oscar for Blue Jasmine. It was the whole Golden Globes slobbering all over Woody that year, along with her acceptance speech at the Globes, that prompted Dylan to write her op-ed about Woody molesting her as a child. She specifically called out Blanchett.

      So yeah I guess I’m adding another Kate to the list of people who’s movies I don’t watch.

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    NilusDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:49pm

    You know I am sure there are a few hundred up and coming(and old in the business) Directors, Writers and Actors that have Polanski or Allen level work in them that also don’t fuck children.  Maybe Hollywood should stop giving work to these assholes and hire some of these new guys

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      Velvet AlNilus
      12/07/17 6:09pm

      But Polanski and Allen test well with the coveted 40-70 pedophile market.

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      Mr Smith1466Nilus
      12/07/17 7:02pm

      Polanski definitely did fuck a child. Allen MAY have or may not have. Don’t toss Allen in with Polanski.

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    KellyDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:39pm

    Except maybe, just maybe, he didn’t do it. There is no proof other than hearsay, which might have been made up by a vindictive ex. In literally any other crime, we ask for some proof other than someone with a possible grudge saying it happened. I certainly don’t blame an artist for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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      recognitionsKelly
      12/07/17 4:01pm

      https://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/

      https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/my-father-woody-allen-danger-892572

      http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-farrow-woody-allen-me-too-20171207-story.html

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      LintMaprecognitions
      12/07/17 4:26pm

      It’s complicated by the fact that children can be coached, pressured, and manipulated into saying and even believing or remembering nearly anything without any malicious intent of their own. The day care sex abuse hysteria of the 1980s demonstrates pretty clearly how easily innocent lives can be easily ruined by adults manipulating children: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria

      It’s certainly plausible that Woody Allen molested her, but it’s not really that implausible that he might not have, either, and you don’t even have to assume she’s lying.

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    Mr. ThreepwoodDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 4:31pm

    It’s amazing that he just won’t retire. Despite endless backlash. Despite tepid reception of every movie after Blue Jasmine and a bunch before it. Despite him being 82 for fuck’s sake. Just give it a rest, Woody. We’re all tired of you.

    For all his faults, Polanski does still make some amazing movies.

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      KatmanduMr. Threepwood
      12/07/17 5:35pm

      For all his faults, Polanski does still make some amazing movies.

      For all his faults? Ten women have come forward and accused Polanski or sexually assaulting them. They ranged in age from 9 to 16 at the time of the assaults.

      He deserves no legacy. His awards should be revoked and his accomplishments stricken from the record.

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      Mr. ThreepwoodKatmandu
      12/07/17 6:08pm

      Yeah, I thought maybe I should resist baiting people with that last sentence, but then I thought “what the hell”. I’ve been on the fence about that issue for quite a while, but, to be honest with myself, I’m never gonna stop enjoying art created by terrible, incredibly shitty people, and yeah, even criminals and rapists. If you dig through the history of artists from the past, be it writers, painters, actors, directors, whatever... Yeah, a lot of them are monsters. Like, real fucking monsters. And they should be (in many cases “should have been”) punished for their crimes accordingly. We’re more aware of it now and we probably prefer not to go too deep into biographies of artists of yore. But yeah, being an artist is, in a way, a psychiatric abnormality. It manifests differently. It comes with a lot of trauma, and it creates a lot of trauma for others. Honestly, we would be safer without having talented (and, importantly so, recognized and famous) people around us. So what should we, as receivers of art, do? Decline it? Or accept that it mostly comes from shitty, dirty, downright evil sources? I don’t know. Annie Hall is a great movie, fully informed by Woody’s shitty perception of reality, of women, of himself. If he wasn’t a terrible person, he wouldn’t create it. Polanski’s recent (and, in my opinion, utterly amazing) Venus in Furs also screams of its creator, and it’s all the better for it. And yet, no one really deserved to suffer for this great art to come to us.

      To me, it’s a moral dilemma. I’m glad that to others the answer’s obvious. I accept that I’m a flawed person who allows himself to have dilemmas like that. I’m very possibly very much in the wrong here.

      I fully support having him stripped off his accolades. I fully support having him put in jail. And yet I want to watch his movies.

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    recognitionsDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 4:04pm

    I mean am I crazy, or did she put out a statement just a month ago about the importance of believing victims? The cognitive dissonance here is approaching Fox News viewer-level.

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      caperclawrecognitions
      12/07/17 5:02pm

      You should always believe a victim, unless it interferes with your career then fuck those lying bitches.

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      Katmandurecognitions
      12/07/17 5:28pm

      Girl wants another Oscar and thinks a boring Woody Allen movie will get it for her so she’s ready to shill for it.

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    Jake GyllenhaalDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:38pm

    When I look at that photo, I think the headline is: “Hollywood Actors Help Lost Man with Alzheimer’s”

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      Preparation HecheJake Gyllenhaal
      12/07/17 4:59pm

      “Hollywood actors [and Jim Belushi]....”

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      CallMeShoeboxJake Gyllenhaal
      12/08/17 11:56am

      Me, out loud at work: Is that a fucking velvet bucket hat?

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    KBLojinxDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 8:48pm

    So, I’m going to have to take a year off movies. Let the ‘these people are shitty list’ get finalized a bit. Then I’ll need someone to cross reference the ‘these people are shitty list’ with a list of “people who weren’t critical enough of those on the ‘these people are shitty list’”.

    I mean, I never got into Woody Allen, so that’s easy enough. But these molestation charges go back to 1993, right? He’s worked with a ton of people since then. I need to know who has/hasn’t adequately condemned him in the last 25 years. But finding that out seems like a lot of work.

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      CallMeShoeboxKBLojinx
      12/08/17 11:57am

      I’ve been watching a lot of TCM lately. I’m sure things were worse back then but I can console myself knowing most of the perpetrators are dead.

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    natureslayerDanette Chavez
    12/07/17 3:19pm

    Ignorance is not a virtue. Forced ignorance is doubly worse. Any person who still works with Polanski is shitty. But these latest statements are bizarre and nonsensical.

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