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    TheUnnumberedOneSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:31am

    I might catch some flak here, but I’ll go for it. Does this make anyone else feel uneasy? We’ve used Franken as the posterboy of our ability to kill our own darlings, and now that we’ve managed to destroy his career — a career he would have continued to use to speak up for women — I feel like we’ve only managed to parody ourselves. Did we have to do this in order to have a leg to stand on in our criticisms of the right? I’m legitimately asking. It seems like we sacrificed Franken on that altar.

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      Olde FortranTheUnnumberedOne
      12/07/17 11:37am

      I agree. I was wondering how the Democrats were going to blow the 2018 elections.

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      kennyabTheUnnumberedOne
      12/07/17 11:38am

      We didn’t destroy his career. His own actions destroyed his career. We’re saying that there are standards to which our elected officials should be held, and Franken has fallen short of those standards of his own volition.

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    10cities10yearsSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:27am

    I honestly believe this is the right decision. Yeah, he’s probably being railroaded to some degree, and yeah, there are far worse accusations against other senators and (sadly) soon-to-be-senators, and of course, the fucking president. But Democrats need to be on the right side of history here, and if that means taking a hit now, that’s okay. The Democrats have long claimed to be the Party for Women, they are starting to live up to that moniker.

    It’s also worth pointing out that Franken will be replaced by a Democrat, so it’s not like the party is losing a seat.

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      TheUnnumberedOne10cities10years
      12/07/17 11:34am

      Are Democrats really on the right side of history, though? Franken was one of the party’s actual go-getters; one of the few whose voice legitimately helped the voiceless nationwide. I dunno, maybe this will ensure that future Democrat politicians will comport themselves better. But keep in mind that Franken didn’t have a career in politics in mind beforehand. There will always be dirt.

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      Mococopoo10cities10years
      12/07/17 11:38am

      This is why it’s so calculated. Franken seat is up for election now in 2018 and 2020. They waited for the first week after the November election to start this so they have a full year to campaign against this. They knew that Franken would resign and that a state that Clinton won by 40000 votes would be possibly in play. This isn’t just about morality it’s gamemanship.

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    Cooking with CranstonSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:38am

    I’m not defending anyone here but I simply want to let it be known that if I got drunk at a party when I was 21 or 22 and may have grabbed a little ass and you just now feel compelled to speak up about it that will most undoubtedly destroy my life from here on, be prepared to have it dragged out in court.

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      RichardCooking with Cranston
      12/07/17 11:43am

      AMEN!!! How far back are we going to be digging these things up? And what about anonymous accusations? How can a person be expected to respond to an accusation when they don’t even know their accuser?

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      revoluCooking with Cranston
      12/07/17 11:43am

      If it unwanted, and its one time, shame on you, if twice wtf are you doing, multiple times just stop it, just stop

      Unwanted ass touching is unwanted ass touching, its not like it’s a neutral action, being drunk doesn’t excuse you from being touchy feely, don’t drink then. Seems pretty simple to me.

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    recognitionsSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:23am

    Thank God. And before anyone starts, it’s actually a good thing to go into the 2018 election with at least one party that doesn’t excuse sexual assault.

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      LongbowMkIIrecognitions
      12/07/17 11:45am

      it’s sad seeing how many people want to overlook sexual assault for political expediency.

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      Mr Glitchrecognitions
      12/07/17 12:00pm

      You’re absolutely right & I agree 100%.

      But goddammit, why’d it have to be Al Franken?!

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    ArgieBargieSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:30am

    Democrats: see, we are better than them! We take the high moral ground!

    Republicans: well, you are only guilty if you admit to it, but we will gladly take your seats while you take that moral victory lap.

    And before you say anything, yes, of course Franken needed to go, but let’s not delude ourselves into thinking this will benefit the Democratic Party in any upcoming elections.

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      LongbowMkIIArgieBargie
      12/07/17 11:44am

      it doesnt matter if it helps the democrats or not. it was the right thing to do.

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      %^$#@ArgieBargie
      12/07/17 3:55pm

      Yeah, Franken needed to go but Republicans have found a silver bullet, a way to get the left to reliably eat its own and feel morally superior while doing it. You can bet they’ll make use of it at every opportunity, since R’s are really only interested in the consolidation and exercise of power at this point anyway.

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    HockeyMikeOnTheGoSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:32am

    Surprising.

    I found him smart enough. And good enough. But I guess people didnt like him.

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      recognitionsHockeyMikeOnTheGo
      12/07/17 12:09pm

      I hate to break it to you, but you just made the same joke as Donald Trump Jr.

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      Surprise Pumarecognitions
      12/07/17 12:15pm

      That’s just mean! But still kind of funny. HockeyMike wore it better.

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    B TownSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:28am

    Awesome. Thank you, DNC (and even thanks to Franken). Bill Clinton’s rapid expulsion to the darkness is up next.

    Of course, being the party of moral fortitude and human decency only gets you votes if you have great candidates. So where the fuck are they? Who is going to pick up the baton, make waves and get headlines from here? Because no one has ever sucked up all the media oxygen as cannily as Trump, not in history.

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      Not Writing AnymoreB Town
      12/07/17 11:40am

      America Ferrera will be old enough to run for president in 2020.

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      BrickstarterNot Writing Anymore
      12/07/17 11:49am

      That would be a tough one for the Republicans.  She’s got “America” right there in the name!

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    Yankton, née Spacemonkey MafiaSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 12:16pm

    This one breaks my heart. I wanted Al to run for president, for fucks sake. We have a shocking paucity of democrats who are both willing and capable of articulating why progressive policies are actually beneficial and moral. If this actually helps us move toward a better environment for women to work and live in, than it’s worth it, but it stings like a son of a bitch.

    Also, whatever progressives/Democrats/liberals do to hold sexual harassers accountable, we better do it for our own souls, and not to prove a point or gain leverage. Because the right sure doesn’t give a shit. 

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      B TownYankton, née Spacemonkey Mafia
      12/07/17 12:57pm

      Franken is kind of, sort of, the reason we have Mueller (it was his grilling of Sessions that got that racist fucker to trip up and recuse himself). He served a valiant and historical purpose but then the rest of 2017 happened.

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      G.E.O.Yankton, née Spacemonkey Mafia
      12/07/17 6:16pm

      This is going to end with people accusing themselves on specious evidence and turning their own pitchforks at their own throats, unfortunately.

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    CineCraftSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 11:29am

    I’m sure Lorne Fucking Michaels will rehire him.

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      Olde FortranCineCraft
      12/07/17 11:38am

      Oddly enough, he wouldn’t be the first senator to appear on SNL. Singer Paul Simon was the host years ago and Senator Paul Simon (D-Il) walks up on stage and says something like “I hope I’m not too late. I pick up the TV Guide and see that I’m hosting this week. Why didn’t anyone tell me?!”

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      Mr. White ReturnsOlde Fortran
      12/07/17 11:46am

      We could use some senator Simons nowadays. That guy was a class act.

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    MoSamSean O'Neal
    12/07/17 12:49pm

    A rare Pyrrhic moral victory! I’m guessing there’s hope that the Democrats will leverage moral highground for votes! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I am certain that I will meet at least one white woman in 2018 or 2020 who is a victim of harassment or assault, but wanted a tax break and voted GOP.

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      G.E.O.MoSam
      12/07/17 6:18pm

      Yeah, reality is something that Liberals like to bring up a lot but they sure do like to reshape it Inception style to fit what they want it to be, instead of working toward building it from the ground up.

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