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geekymitchYesha
11/17/17 9:07am
Well I guess that’s ONE way to make the point you were arguing against.
Fucking jackass. Seriously. This is why gun control is NEEDED. I argue with a guy at work all the time - he’s a responsible gun owner, has a gun safe, etc etc and so on. He has a 10 year old who knows how to operate a firearm safely, and also knows not to touch. I keep telling him that he’s not the gun owner I worry about.
The fuckstick in this article IS.
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  Dinosaurs and Nachos, Very Legal and Very Cool!geekymitch
  11/17/17 9:31am
  Had that conversation with my mom recently.
  I am a responsible gun owner. Which is exactly why I support certain regulations. Because, as a responsible gun owner, those regulations are not going to prevent me from owning or shooting my guns.
  The only people that are really worried about regulations are the types that think they are going to protect themselves from a tyrannical government with their guns and that any and all regulations are the way that a tyrannical government is going to stop them. No, honey baby. DRONES are how the government is going to stop you. The government doesn’t need regulations to stop you from stopping them.
  But if you are crazy enough to believe this sort of bullshit, then you are the type of person who needs a little more regulating.
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  butcherbakertoiletrymakergeekymitch
  11/17/17 9:42am
  Also: not even remotely surprised that this took place in TN. That state never gets is due for the incredible amounts of crazy/racist/stupid compared to FL and TX.
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JayFraYesha
11/17/17 8:56am
“The couple were airlifted to the hospital, and charges were not filed.”
WTF? Isn’t the accidental discharge of a weapon resulting in bodily harm a crime?
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  ImthemagnificentJayFra
  11/17/17 9:09am
  Right now Plaxico Burress is shaking his fists in anger.
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  hocuspocusoctopusJayFra
  11/17/17 9:26am
  Because it was an accident and he didn’t mean to cause harm. Not being flippant. Those are the reason the cops will state, and this reaction is actually frustratingly common.
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send_in_the_dronesYesha
11/17/17 8:44am
He’s an idiot and here’s exactly why:
Chambering a round requires a separate action from inserting the magazine. That’s why people in movies and TV (aside from dramatic effect) always pull the slide back after taking them out of the holster; they are making room for the magazine to push a round up and then, when the slide comes forward, the round is pushed into the barrel.
A lot of cops do this when they first load the gun and then re-add a bullet to the magazine to add one more round to the gun and to avoid the delay in operating the slide. So a 19 round magazine plus 1 in the chamber, for 20.
There is nothing in a gun to tell that a round is in the chamber; the ‘loaded’ indicator is only an indicator that a round is available to be pushed by the magazine spring into position where it can be pushed into the chamber when the slide comes forward again.
Here’s a cop who had a round chambered:
Mostly it’s not on film - usually they shoot the lockers at the station playing ‘quick-draw.’
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  Diarrheabetesagainsend_in_the_drones
  11/17/17 8:53am
  ‘Nighttime safety check’ Why don’t these fuck-wads remember training?
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  Kamauxsend_in_the_drones
  11/17/17 9:19am
  My guess is that he dropped the mag and locked the slide back to show the gun was safe. When he reinserted the mag he hit the slide release and a round was chambered.
  Regarding your assertion of how loaded chamber indicators work you are wrong. You’re confusing it with something—I’m unsure what. The loaded chamber indicators has nothing to do with the pistol’s magazine. In fact no magazine has to be present for it to work. It raises (for physical identification) or shows a red “flag” (for visible identification) when a round is loaded into the chamber. Simple as that. How they messed that up is beyond me (but he is 80 years old, so there’s that).
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What'sWhiteSalty&WetAllOverYesha
11/17/17 10:17am
Longtime reader, first time to comment. You all at The Root have kept me sane every day at my job (all white law firm. I’m def the token black woman/person, and that shit is rough at times.)
I laughed SOOOOOO hard at this one. I live in Memphis. Better known as a shit hole. (Originally from NY. Trying to get back. Anybody have any job openings?) Have a co-worker from “Strawberry Plains”, TN (also right outside of Knoxville, just like the podunk ass town in the article) and this shit had me dyin’! These assbackwards mfers neither have any shame, nor the capacity to be embarrassed.
To address a couple of points noted by other commenters:
*Yes, TN most def does not receive its due recognition for being by far one of the absolute shittiest places in the galaxy right alongside MS, LA, AL, FL, and TX, in no particular order, because they’re ALL equally shitty.
** #NeverForget Pulaski, TN: City of the birthplace of the KKK
*** Seriously asking, anybody know of any openings in NY? Asking for a friend
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  AlainProstIsNotTheDevilWhat'sWhiteSalty&WetAllOver
  11/17/17 10:46am
  Just curious, but was the omission of Arkansas intentional or not in your list of absolute shittiness?
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  satalacWhat'sWhiteSalty&WetAllOver
  11/17/17 11:01am
  Wait, where is Trump from?
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invanzYesha
11/17/17 10:23am
What really pisses me off is this is exactly the kind of person that guns need to be taken away from, and no one is saying that.
He is not a Responsible Gun Owner. He shot his wife (and himself) in church. He is exactly the kind of idiot that would leave his gun out for his great-grandson to shoot himself in the head while playing. He is the kind of person I expect will wake up in the middle of the night, thinking there’s a burglar in the house, and shoot his wife (AGAIN) who got up to get a drink of water earlier.
Here’s what responsible gun control looks like: “You have to prove and get accredited to own guns and carry them. You will have to periodically come back for testing to show that you retain your abilities. If ANYTHING comes up that shows that you are a danger or otherwise irresponsible enough to question your gun ownership, they will be taken away.”
And yet here we are. This 80 year-old senile moron will continue to be a walking red flag, along with millions of others just like him.
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  Tsume76invanz
  11/17/17 10:33am
  I agree with everything that you said, 100%, but I’m now imagining a day in the lfe of this couple, where she repeatedly gets accidentally shot, and begins taking more and more ridiculous measures to avoid it, only for it to happen again and again. Like an old WB cartoon.
  
  Someone give these two a web series. I’d watch.
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  An Asteroid Crashed and Nothing Burned 3.0invanz
  11/17/17 11:07am
  A responsible gun owner would never feel the need to show a group of people his gun.
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skefflesYesha
11/17/17 9:11am
“He pulled it back out and said, ‘With this loaded indicator, I can tell that it’s not loaded,’”
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  Agsgdjskeffles
  11/17/17 10:13am
  Yep, there’s a reason clearing barrels are a thing.
  Guns are always loaded, people.
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  Ry-bones, FiST pilotskeffles
  11/17/17 10:45am
  Sweet Jesus. Is that from a gunshow?
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DolemiteYesha
11/17/17 9:16am
“charges were not filed.” I don’t understand this. I can get a ticket for speeding because something bad *might* happen, but someone does something far more reckless, and something bad *did* happen, and no charges. Guns are just like freaking immune to common sense laws.
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  Surprise PumaDolemite
  11/17/17 10:24am
  I bet if you made a Lady Gaga style suit out of handguns you’d be impervious from all forms of prosecution. Plus, if you’re a good guy, you’d automatically prevent all gun violence around you.
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  TheBurnersMyDestinationDolemite
  11/18/17 2:56pm
  He should be charged with criminal negligence. Rule #1 of handling a gun is “treat every gun as if it is loaded” which means YOU DON’T PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER WHEN YOU AREN’T INTENDING TO SHOOT SOMETHING. There is nothing “accidental” about these incidents. Someone deliberately did something that resulted in the discharging of a firearm, causing harm to his dumb-ass self and someone else who just happened to be in the room with him.
  Guns aren’t fucking toys. If you can’t handle one properly you shouldn’t be allowed to handle it at all. Bet you $100 this guy still thinks of himself as a “responsible gun owner” who carries in case he needs to be the “good guy with a gun.” We need to stop indulging people’s fantasies that, with limited training, they are somehow going to save the day.
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Bronx Resident Benjamin WhiteYesha
11/17/17 11:17am
It still baffles me why the NRA is so adamantly opposed to mandating even the most basic firearms safety training. That alone would’ve prevented this.
Rule #1: Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
Relying on an “indicator” is dumb (and I’ve never heard of such a thing on any weapon). Relying on the another man’s word is dumb. Assuming that a weapon isn’t loaded is dumb (even when it’s disassembled, it can be loaded. I’ve seen people learn this lesson the hard way). Person #2 should’ve never squeezed the trigger (but then again, he probably never handled a weapon before either, so I don’t know how much fault he should be assigned).
Rule #2: Never point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
Compounding the problem was Person #2's failure to keep the muzzle away from anything and anybody before he squeezed the trigger. As the owner of the firearm, Person #1 should’ve never handed over his weapon without unloading and clearing it, and he should’ve ensured that Person #2 kept the muzzle in a safe direction.
If there is a reason for not having guns in a church, this is it.
NB: Some clarifications to note: The Ruger was a .380 caliber, not a .318. The former is a pistol, the latter is a rifle. There should also be some clarification that before the owner reinserted the magazine, the slide was pulled back to clear it when he initially unloaded it. When the slide was released with a loaded magazine re-inserted, that chambered a round. Failure on the owner’s part to understand this critical function this goes back to why weapons handling training (with periodic refreshers) should be mandatory for all gun purchases.
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  Bronx Resident Benjamin WhiteBronx Resident Benjamin White
  11/17/17 3:38pm
  Upon re-reading of the original article, I was mistaken about Person #2 firing the weapon. This was all on Person #1.
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Sweet Potato Sam AKA Party Leader of the Thundercrats HOOOOO!Yesha
11/17/17 9:30am
“If only he had a gun in his other hand, he could have stopped himself.”
My favorite quote for these kinds of things
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  Battle of the Little Big DipperSweet Potato Sam AKA Party Leader of the Thundercrats HOOOOO!
  11/17/17 11:26am
  Or maybe if his wife had had a gun...
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  Sweet Potato Sam AKA Party Leader of the Thundercrats HOOOOO!Battle of the Little Big Dipper
  11/17/17 11:31am
  I feel like he’s not the type to have “allowed” that. After all, he’s pretty old and she was probably only let out of the kitchen to go to church.
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sdtony42Yesha
11/17/17 10:41am
I’ll ask the same question I asked my ex-roomate when he accidently fired his AR-15 through his bedroom wall, through my room, and into the home next door.
Even if you thought the magazine was empty and there wasn’t one in the chamber, why are you pulling the trigger? It either accomplishes nothing or blows a hole in something(or someone).
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  Ry-bones, FiST pilotsdtony42
  11/17/17 10:50am
  Man, I got to hear the rest of that story. Were you home? Were neighbors home? What did you do?
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  sdtony42Ry-bones, FiST pilot
  11/17/17 12:26pm
  Thankfully I was downstairs watching football and not in the room. The damned round went through the wall, out my window and through their window and hit a big screen TV. The neighbors were home and were super pissed, but since we were all in the Navy (neighbors too), my buddy convinced them to handle it without involving the police.
  We also stripped his at home 2nd amendment rights and made him keep his weapons in a friends gunsafe.
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