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    ariesdragon123Monique Judge
    9/08/17 8:41pm

    Can we use this to lock up the parents of those teens in Ohio who burned that cross for failing to prevent their children from supporting a terrorist organization?

    They just using this to go after single black moms.

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      Cardi B's Other Shoeariesdragon123
      9/08/17 8:47pm

      Hey, now. That was just kids funnin’ around. They’ve been suspended nine whole days. That’s enough suffering for white folks.

      But something tells me white parents in Shreveport will get out of punishment using the same excuses they use on their children when they’re caught doing fucked up shit. Like bashing a classmate 40 times in the head with a claw hammer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      fair_n_hite_451ariesdragon123
      9/08/17 10:25pm

      Why think small?

      I’m thinking “lock Trump up for the crimes of Eric and/or Donald Jr.”. I mean, it’s only fair right?

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    smoke&waterMonique Judge
    9/08/17 7:38pm

    Ah yes, how dare you not supervise your children the way we want you to. Now, to prevent this from happening we will ensure your children have NO supervision for the next 30 days. You’ll also lose your job and won’t be able to pay for anything. So, we have doubly ensured that your kids will not steal in the future. Problem solved! We can go home people, this problem is definitely, definitely solved.

    Three years later... two children of mother who was imprisoned are currently being tried as adults for their latest crime spree and will now have 24 hour supervision for the next 15 to 20. See! I told you!! PROBLEM SOOOOLVED!!

    Also, this guy is a fucking idiot. Why do people who have NO idea of how to solve society’s ills get put in charge of society’s ills? I’m just asking.

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      Brwnskngurlsmoke&water
      9/09/17 1:00pm

      Ok, so what is a better option? In some areas in Chicago to maintain public housing in mixed income housing, women cannot have children or boyfriends with criminal records live with them, not even stay overnight or they risk losing their home. It has apparently worked. These women focus on the kids who are not criminals, they figure out they have more worth than they thought and seek relationships with men who are about more than crime. It has transformed many of these women’s lives and their younger, crime-free children. I think if you take a similar approach, maybe not locking up immediately but with some warnings, it might change the paradigm for some of these families.   

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      windchillBrwnskngurl
      9/09/17 2:35pm

      It has certainly worked to punish women for the actions of men and to render a lot of women homeless for things they did not do, yes.

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    FredCee71Monique Judge
    9/08/17 10:16pm

    Wish I had the link to this, but I posted it on my now-defunct Facebook account:

    A few years ago, a Tennessee father’s 12-year-old son shot and killed an 8- or 9-year-old girl because the girl wouldn’t let the boy have a toy or dog of hers or something like that. The boy was able to access the shotgun because his father either didn’t lock it up properly or at all. The son was charged with murder, but the father wasn’t even charged with neglect. I don’t even think the girl’s parents filed a civil suit against the boy’s father.

    Granted, Dillard’s case is in Louisiana and not in Tennessee, but I believe the Tennessee case raised the bar (albeit inappropriately) on what constitutes “prosecutable” parental neglect. I maybe could understand Stewart’s stance if Dillard’s kids committed murder or rape, but for B&E and curfew violations??? Levying a fine against Dillard should be the max.

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      Yes...They Are Real!FredCee71
      9/08/17 11:08pm

      I wascurious about the case, and Googled it. Here’s a link JiC anyone wants to read up.

      What’s so sickening is how cold this kid was about it. Tossing both guns outside to one witness, and shutting the window. He’s even accusing another kid shooting her, despite there being 3(IIRC) eyewitnesses. She died in her mom’s arms.

      ETA the boy was able to obtain access to two guns(BB & shotgun) from an unlocked location. All while the adults were busy watching college football.

      http://www.newportplaintalk.com/news/article_304ec372-cb43-11e5-92bc-d77ccd24f430.html

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      send_in_the_dronesFredCee71
      9/09/17 12:50am

      If she is destitute she may have no funds to pay a fine or pay for the damage done in the B&E. Same thing in a civil suit in the murder of the girl - living in a trailer suggests no assets worth the legal costs. There are plenty of other odd cases one might point to and say they are worse, but those don’t affect the merits of this case. 

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    Mortal DictataMonique Judge
    9/08/17 7:46pm

    In March, he vowed to prosecute parents whose children were caught in public after hours.

    Wait wait, so in amongst this whole pile of shite this guy is now enforcing a mandatory curfew as well?

    Didn’t realise these people lived in fucking North Korea.

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      Cardi B's Other ShoeMortal Dictata
      9/08/17 8:43pm

      We had a curfew back when I was youth in the 1900s. This is...normal?

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      PaulMooneysTongueMortal Dictata
      9/08/17 10:38pm

      Curfews are normal. Whether they are enforced is another subject.

      There are a lot of greys with this one for me. On one hand, I kind of support this practice because let’s be honest, there are a lot of shitty parents who need to have their asses checked. Some need to be checked hard.

      However, in reality, how would this really work out well, as the points Monique illustrates so well. And we all know full well, that this action really is targeting low-income blacks. Which is one more stigma they don’t need to confront.

      A middle ground might be this woman has to attend parenting classes for x amount of weeks and work with a mentor/sponsor, who is not connected to DCFS but state certified.

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    Cardi B's Other ShoeMonique Judge
    9/08/17 8:44pm

    It’s Shreveport, guys. The same place where the PD/Crime Stoppers thinks this is totally cool:

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      yilichiyaoCardi B's Other Shoe
      9/08/17 9:33pm

      What? Nonononono. Omg what is wrong with people? This is so fucked on so many levels. Giving away an assault rifle? How does this pass as legal?

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      Cardi B's Other Shoeyilichiyao
      9/09/17 12:45pm

      With the American flag painted on it.

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    BrwnskngurlMonique Judge
    9/08/17 10:44pm

    Am I really upset about this? I know it’s draconian but.... crime is rampant in Chicago and folks are scared. Maybe if we lock up mothers who have NO CONTROL over their offspring might encourage an attempt at parenting or having less kids?! I’m sorry but I’m fed up w the hoodlums....and while it’s not a long term fix, it’s somethIng.

    I will appreciate constructive discourse but not belligerence and name-calling.

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      RBG_til_I_DIEBrwnskngurl
      9/09/17 7:47am

      I think Monique properly laid out enough “constructive discourse” before you typed your comment.

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      MrEchidnaRocketBrwnskngurl
      9/09/17 8:17am

      So when their mother is in prison, what happens to the children? Is it realistically going to be better?

      “Having less kids” is not as simple as a lot of people think. Lots of women don’t have complete reproductive freedom - whether to have sex might not be their choice, for example. Maybe they don’t have access to reliable contraception.

      If the children are being neglected, shouldn’t that be picked up by their school or social services and acted on before it gets to this point?

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    crouching tigerMonique Judge
    9/09/17 7:34pm

    Outside of emergency situations, how are curfews constitutional?

    Once, while visiting a cousin in some Atlanta suburb, I was nearly arrested by cops on a fucking golf cart for violating a curfew that I didn’t even know existed.

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      fixthefernback88crouching tiger
      9/10/17 11:47pm

      I was really surprised to see so many people saying curfews were normal.

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      crouching tigerfixthefernback88
      9/10/17 11:55pm

      You prompted me to look up whether my city has a curfew. Yep. 10 pm for 16, and midnight until 18.

      Wtf?

      We had friends over for dinner tonight, and the topic of curfews came up. When he was in high school, a friend of his turned 18 and was nailed for a curfew violation alongside her peers, all of whom we’re 17. They got curfew tickets, but she got “contributing to the delinquency of a minor” charges, which would have prevented her from a fire department job, had she not talked a judge into expunging that years later.

      What a stupid law.

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    IMadeANewBurnerToStarThisPoopJokeMonique Judge
    9/10/17 1:08am

    This is one of those “I definitely would know what color skin the person/people in question have just from reading the headline no matter where it was published” type of things.

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    Not Enough Day DrinkingMonique Judge
    9/08/17 8:02pm

    Collective punishment is banned under numerous international treaties and conventions the US has signed including Hague Regulations and the Geneva Convention.

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule103

    But now that you mention it...if we’re punishing people for shit their family members did, there are a lot of white folks with some unpleasant family histories.

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