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redjellydonutPatrick Allan
9/06/17 2:46pm
I had a friend who was in the last stages of pancreatic cancer. She had been declining for months and was bed-ridden and past the need or desire for much of anything. She took her fluids through an IV and was heavily sedated with morphine. She had been almost entirely unconscious for several days, but came all the way up the evening before her last day. Her friends and family were around her. She said it was almost time and asked to see each of us in turn. She told me that she was glad to have known me, that I had made her life better, and she asked if there was anything we needed to resolve, then said goodbye. It seemed to me, at the time, that this was all for our benefit, the ones left behind. After she made time for each of us, she closed her eyes and went back to sleep and never woke up again before she passed the next morning. My question is: What is the mechanism that affords some people the ability to know when it’s time to tidy up the last threads that tie you to the world? It was one of the most extraordinary things I’ve ever seen. You hear about these things anecdotally, but it’s something I wonder about: How and why it happens.
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  VIRTUAL BRITredjellydonut
  9/06/17 5:27pm
  This really touching - as someone who lost their dad to kidney cancer... I could only wish for something so beautiful.
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  BigDaddyredjellydonut
  9/06/17 7:15pm
  I’m guessing the brain subconsciously makes the body push harder so that it can finish whatever business that’s important to you, and after that, it just lets go and stops fighting.
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dewmelonPatrick Allan
9/06/17 1:14pm
I’ve flatlined twice (fortunately super briefly both times) and neither that nor revival was any different from falling asleep and waking up, although the waking up from those was instantaneous, whereas, well, I’m not a morning person, let’s just say.
Sherwin Nuland’s How We Die is a wonderful and amazing book about the six most common causes of death. It made me realize that, barring accidents and unknown issues (like a fatal heart attack sneaking up on you), you can choose your cause of death decades in advance, and probably should. And from that point, you stop being scared of it. It looks like the book is on Internet Archive in a variety of formats, if readers don’t want to pay for the printed edition.
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  Катюша GEAR RISING: R E V E N G E A N C Edewmelon
  9/06/17 1:23pm
  I overdosed at one point when I was young and flatlined as well. I always thought I might’ve missed out on some cool NDE-type shit because I was so sedated but your experience sounds pretty much identical to mine. I fell asleep in one place, and woke up in an ambulance. Nothing impressive about the incident beyond the medical science that saved me.
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  Jenracdewmelon
  9/06/17 1:36pm
  Can you elaborate on the idea of choosing your cause of death? How do you go about doing that? What are your choices, exactly?
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SimuLordPatrick Allan
9/06/17 2:05pm
Depression and anxiety? When I went in for heart surgery, it was then that I realized I really don’t fear my own mortality. I’m a religious man, and if the gods want me, I am prepared for the trip to Asgard to meet them.
Now, back when I was still an atheist, that’s when death really scared the fuck out of me.
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  RhayaderSimuLord
  9/06/17 2:13pm
  Then again, some might say that religion itself is nothing but an elaborate mechanism for coping with death anxiety.
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  SimuLordRhayader
  9/06/17 2:17pm
  Opiate of the masses, indeed, but my own faith comes from the same place as Ben Franklin’s “I have lived...” speech.
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LJ909Patrick Allan
9/06/17 5:11pm
Jesus I could feel my anxiety rising as I read this.
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  VIRTUAL BRITLJ909
  9/06/17 5:26pm
  SAME
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  pF5aLJ909
  5/04/18 9:08pm
  Many Asian “religions” present a study of the “death process”, which is pretty close to the process outlined above. (Buddhism is atheistic also.) Google “Buddhist death process”.
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squidsyPatrick Allan
9/06/17 1:54pm
Do you still experience these near-death things if you die instantly (for example in a car crash or something)? If your body is crushed, is your brain still “alive” for four minutes after you’re dead or something and you still have this out of body experience? Or is this only talking about old-age ‘natural’ deaths?
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  rs2942squidsy
  9/06/17 2:29pm
  It depends on how you were crushed. If brain survived wholly intact but the rest of body is crushed to the point it suddenly stops functioning anymore, the brain would function for about a minutes while oxygen is consumed within itself. You probably won’t see the bright light because your optic nerve is gone. You also won’t feel pain because your rest of nerves are gone too, unless its slowly dying, then may be either tremendous pain or just numb from shock. You will get the same peaceful experience from endorphin because it’s secreted inside your brain as you lose consciousness.
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  Zucchiniisforeversquidsy
  9/06/17 6:59pm
  If you get a head injury, you’ll be unconscious. But, I remember reading about a doctor studying victims of the guillotine. He picked one head up by the hair and called the man’s name a few times and the eyes opened a couple of times before stopping any response. Proving that you can be decapitated and still conscious for a few seconds, but it’s anecdotal.
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SBM_from_LAPatrick Allan
9/06/17 1:43pm
It’s funny how any type of “spiritual” encounter a person may have during death is conveniently Explained Away here in this article as not being real. I honestly believe the most common phrase a person says after they die is, “I didn’t know”.
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  What? Me Worry?SBM_from_LA
  9/07/17 12:27pm
  I honestly believe the most common phrase a person says after they die is, “I didn’t know”.
  Your statement is puzzling. I’m curious how anybody says anything after they die. How does that work? Are you suggesting they physically say it? Or is this some sort of metaphysical thing the “soul” says to itself? If the latter, how do you know what the departed say to themselves?
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  LoremIpsum010101SBM_from_LA
  9/08/17 12:29am
  Science: conveniently explaining away nonsense for millennia!
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IckyRickyBPatrick Allan
9/06/17 4:11pm
Ejaculate?! Wait a sec, how do I make sure that happens? Seems like that’s the way to go.
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  Raskos1IckyRickyB
  9/06/17 6:50pm
  Coming as you’re going? Sounds indecisive to me.
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  panthercougarIckyRickyB
  9/07/17 1:51pm
  See Carradine, David.
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whiskertriscuitPatrick Allan
9/06/17 2:01pm
What Feels Like to Die
Step 1: Be a Cleveland Browns fan.
Steps 2 thru infinity: See Step 1.
ETA: not a Browns fan
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  botticellilovewhiskertriscuit
  9/06/17 4:40pm
  Browns fan. Can confirm.
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  HMSMwhiskertriscuit
  9/07/17 12:54pm
  Am a Browns fan. I concur.
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CogentCommentPatrick Allan
9/06/17 1:44pm
One of the more interesting presentations of imminent death is how blood pressure drops off to the point where it’s not measurable in the extremities.
I was somewhat freaked out the first time I saw it, but it makes a lot of sense - the body is preserving what little oxygenated blood it has for organs that absolutely need it.
Also, morphine, morphine, morphine. That’s the mantra of thanatologists and hospice nurses.
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  The KnitigatorCogentComment
  9/06/17 2:41pm
  When my grandma passed about 10 days ago, she didn’t need morphine, but the Valium helped her. She started yelling in her sleep about six hours before she died so the Valium seemed to help ease the transition for her. Thank GOD for hospice. She didn’t suffer at all and wasn’t in any pain (but we would have had morphine had we needed it)
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  Koala de Vil RNCogentComment
  9/07/17 9:16pm
  The mantra is Morphine, Clonazepam, Haloperidol and Metoclopramide.
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Feral CatsnakePatrick Allan
9/06/17 2:27pm
But what about the Rainbow Bridge? That’s what I’m looking forward to.
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  Jack JonesFeral Catsnake
  9/06/17 4:12pm
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  AAAPharmClubFeral Catsnake
  9/06/17 6:46pm
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