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    Kel C. GrammerLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 1:29pm

    Oh, so the previous comments didn’t merge. Or maybe they’re in the process? I don’t know. This new site feels like a huge step backwards in order to achieve corporate synergy that only benefits the company and not the users.

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      Busdriver StuKel C. Grammer
      8/23/17 1:46pm

      I actually like the way it looks. Style options? Embeds? Sweet! But yeah...at what expense?

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      Synonymous2AnonymousKel C. Grammer
      8/23/17 1:47pm

      Just commenting to see if it actually posts something. Yes, I’m using you. Your points are well taken though.

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    raejcageLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 1:47pm

    “Kinja was never good”

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      Ugh.raejcage
      8/23/17 2:31pm

      Correct.

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      nopunin10didraejcage
      8/24/17 9:13am

      Longtime Kinja user here: it has its frustrating moments, but it grows on you.

      The authority to dismiss trollish replies instantly is fantastic. The greying system feels unfair at times, but it rewards people who keep coming back to the various blogs and saying not-terrible things.

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    LiebkartoffelLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 2:36pm

    You could have at least fixed the inaccuracies when you re-posted this. I’m inclined to agree that Buffy was never as unproblematically feminist as people sometimes hold it up to be—the dude pretty clearly has an obsession with ass-kicking waifs that borders on the sexual. But using stuff like “the first slayer is a black woman depicted as a savage, and her powers are forced upon her by a group of white men” as an example is unfortunate, as A) that’s just not true, the “shadow men” are black as well; and B) the fact that it’s traumatic and without her consent is very much the point, as much of the later seasons’ arc is about overcoming that trauma and reclaiming some agency.

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      Winnebago Man
      8/23/17 6:46pm

      Dead on about the shadow men (this is presumably ancient Africa, i. e. cradle of civilization, yes?) especially that it’s portrayed negatively - and is also a dark comment on the brutality inherent in survival of the fittest.).

      This exact problem is like a brain virus in over-politicized hot takes: depicting abuse does not mean endorsing it, usually the exact opposite A Wonder Woman oft repeated evidence of sexism is a bad guy calling her a whore. A BAD GUY. (When the hate watch lens is that thick, you can easily see them criticizing opposite scenarios. “Whedon here depicts a world devoid of overt sexist aggression, as if to imply like right wingers who claim we’re post racial, that we’re post-sexist too. For shame.”

      I’ve seen readings of his stuff with this exact brand of prezel logic A famous Twitter thread hate-reads the WW script and “live Tweets” the offending passages upon first reading That’s right, with no knowledge of how later scenes may affect the meaning of what she’s slamming, like say, showing Rogers to have been wrong for condescending or whatever. One insane example flogs Whedon for having Rogers admit he wants to see her naked without mentioning the scene has him sitting on the lasso of truth, so embarrassing inner monologue comes out beyond his control. It’s a gag but you’d never know. It goes on and on like this. What complete and utter bullshit.

      It seems like a lot of those up in arms about Whedon’s work think “I’m a feminist” translates as “I make polemic takedowns of sexism or depict fantasy PC utopias, at all expense of any character complexity, genre conventions, commercial factors, and reflection of sexism’s influence on the real world and resonant imagined ones.” Not saying he’s beyond criticism but the lack of perspective in much of this crap is utterly blinding. 

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      Winnebago ManWinnebago Man
      8/23/17 6:52pm

      Almost forgot, this hack-fest Twitter screed guns the outrage machine at the first line of screen direction, describing Rogers’ bi-plane presumably approaching the Amazon island. Her brilliant reading: “And we thought this movie was about a woman. As you can see it’s about this man.” You know, because no movies ever start with a supporting character, especially an outsider like the audience, for a dramatic reveal of an exotic new world, including the iconic comic book hero. Jesus Christ.

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    EvanrudeJohnsonLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 1:29pm

    Feminists seem to have the worst taste in men.

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      Fiona FireEvanrudeJohnson
      8/24/17 6:55pm

      I think it’s more than men who feel the need to brag about how feminist they are don’t exactly get feminism. It’s not very feminist to speak for/over women. There’s also an unfortuante subset of men who think feminism can help them get chicks or excuse sexist behavior.

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    Great Boos UpLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 1:21pm

    Um, test?

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      clemGreat Boos Up
      8/23/17 2:10pm

      ACK

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      LiebkartoffelGreat Boos Up
      8/23/17 2:40pm

      What up?

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    nmiller7192Laura M. Browning
    8/21/17 7:45pm

    I think it was more politically expedient to be opposed to it. Sad, but a harsh reality of politics.

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      Call Me Carlos the Dwarfnmiller7192
      8/21/17 7:48pm

      Yeah, he was against gay marriage until it was no longer politically expedient to oppose it.

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    JoshuaLaura M. Browning
    8/21/17 7:41pm

    I would unite with anyone to do right and with no one to do wrong. —Frederick Douglass

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      ChopperJoshua
      8/21/17 8:23pm

      I've been hearing more and more about this Douglass guy. Seems like he's done a great job!

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    The One True OpinionLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 2:25pm

    Reposted from the original comment section:

    “When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy.”

    We’ve seen it over and over....when faced with a threat, people get paranoid and start attacking each other. They get The Thing syndrome and start panning around the room with narrowed eyes trying to determine which one of their so-called friends is actually an alien creature.

    The Puritans, the Red Scare, the 60s revolution in China...the more right you’re convinced you are, the worse you behave toward other people. And the liberal community is not immune to this.

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    Opus T. PenguinLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 2:37pm

    Help!

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    ChuchundraLaura M. Browning
    8/23/17 2:05pm

    All these comments will be lost...like tears in rain.

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