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    Vanguard KnightTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 9:22am

    Its why I keep a bolt bag packed and ready to go.

    The reality is that standards of living are likely going to fall in Western Countries due to climate change and automation job scarcity.

    White Men (and women) will be looking for someone to blame. Who is the GOTO traditional scapegoat that is easily identifiable and has limited social and economic power in America? Black People.

    A return to the “good ole days” is just around the corner.

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      Ugh.Vanguard Knight
      8/09/17 10:16am

      Civil War in under 10 years. Gonna happen.

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      FuckItAll℞Ugh.
      8/09/17 10:43am

      Nuclear war is going to prevent the US from being in any kind of shape to have a civil war.

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    AngelaInDetroitTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 11:43am
    If that’s what it took,” David Gubert, a Trump supporter, told the New York Times in January. “I’m glad they did it.”

    This confirms what my grandmother (RIP) told me when I was younger “Most white folks are so nasty and racist they would rather destroy America than share with us”

    This is going to be a worthwhile series.

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    Gaseous Clay, Still Prone to HyperboleTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 2:05pm

    I still can’t get over “racial anxiety”. It sounds like some bullshit way to say racism without offending someone (because????), so I looked it up, and I’m still like 95% sure it’s bullshit. Does anyone have an example where it’s not bullshit?

    Russia sure knew which buttons to push, though. The fact that so many people were convinced to vote for a cartoon madman, just by some Russians behind keyboards makes me want to tear all my hair out. Logic and facts couldn’t get the trick done but some phishing scams and papers with no sources can? Fuck everything

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      GearoidDubhGaseous Clay, Still Prone to Hyperbole
      8/09/17 8:07pm

      The concept of “collective insecurity” is valid, it’s used in political science literature specifically on ethnic conflict to try and identify at risk areas/peoples. It mostly tracks with how people use “racial anxiety” from what I’ve seen. People fear their group is losing prestige, influence, economic position, etc. That can spur up irredentist groups or separatism.

      It’s a little different in the US because it usually applies to minorities abroad. A real world example would be the circumstances that led up to the 2012 Tuareg rebellion in Mali, one of a number of rebellions over the years. There’s a lot of factors there but collective insecurity was definitely one of them.

      I’m not sure how I’d feel applying it to whites. Some of it makes sense, like the fears of losing influence and the way some poorer and rural whites are economically marginalized. The psychology is there, and some of the outside circumstances. But it still doesn’t quite feel right to me to apply it.

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      Gaseous Clay, Still Prone to HyperboleGearoidDubh
      8/09/17 8:29pm

      Excellent, exactly the type of answer I was hoping for. Thank you!

      It’s been a while since I had even thought about that conflict, but, you’re right, it makes textbook sense that it would have been a factor leading up to it. If anything, it only makes me feel like this term is even less appropriate in the context of the US. I agree with you that, despite some of the boxes being ticked, it just doesn’t feel right applying it in this context

      also, I should have said this straight away, but I’m just criticising the term. Not Terrell, who was and remains innocent

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    WokeLadyVeeTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 11:25am

    Well written. I’m always amazed when I hear Orangina Trump and his supporters talk about ‘fake news’; when 98.99% of EVERY gotttdamn thing he said during his campaign, said previously about Obama, and continues to tweet-is fucking FALSE! Notice how lots of his supporters are ok with the hacking as long as it got their guy elected. But Lawd if Hawaii or Kenya had even *considered* doing this for Obama in 08 & 2012, Obama would’ve been impeached and probably assassinated. AND-we’d likely be in the midst of a war. There’s a great likelihood of war & I’m uneasy. Time to get your ish in order and BE AWARE.

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      Roadster ManWokeLadyVee
      8/09/17 1:00pm

      WHOA NOW. I am a huge fan of Orangina, let’s leave my favorite fizzy beverage out of this.

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      WokeLadyVeeRoadster Man
      8/09/17 2:11pm

      LOL sorry but alas Trump is Orangina’s stunt double in my book. Same hue :-)

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    Archaeyopterix MajorusTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 1:08pm

    The racism is obvious, but what it really boils down to is the utter and complete self-loathing and absent confidence of all the Trump supporters. These people are racist morons because they hate themselves and have zero belief in their ability to do so much as walk down the driveway and get mail, let alone take any form of ownership over their own lives. They have the worst case of acting against their own interest the world may have ever seen. I continue to hope and pray that this implodes on them in a glorious, horrible way that forever crushes their influence in America on politics or anything else. These people aren’t American and I’m tired of the ‘brotherhood’ line that we are all Americans. This is like the Civil War now; we can’t co-exist with these snakes and slobs in our other, real America of tolerant and rational people. So crucify me... But we need a camp solution or something lol.

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      NoGodsNoMastersNoBSArchaeyopterix Majorus
      8/09/17 2:09pm

      I agree 100%

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      Before Burner: The prequel to BurnerArchaeyopterix Majorus
      8/09/17 2:34pm

      That’s pretty hardcore, and I agree. I also like the lol at the end.

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    SgtMajTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 12:41pm

    We click on links that confirm our biases, whether the stories are true or not.

    Never paid attention to ‘conservative’ media much until Obama. Since then I made it a habit to monitor Fox et al just to see what narrative is being pushed on the topics of the day. Patterns quickly emerge. Fascinating actually.

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      Before Burner: The prequel to BurnerSgtMaj
      8/09/17 2:38pm

      I can’t handle more than a peek at that shit, otherwise I get sick. Used to check in with right wing radio just for a good laugh, but I had to quit after the election. It’s one thing for these clowns to be wrong; another to be wrong and gloat about it.

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      Ugh.Before Burner: The prequel to Burner
      8/09/17 3:05pm

      I went to right wing outlets for the same reason I ended up here: I wanted dialogue.

      I did not find much in the way of dialogue at Right-leaning outlets. I found, and find, way more here.

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    GearoidDubhTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 8:01pm

    This is a great piece.

    Unfortunately I don’t know if there’s anything that can be done about it. White irredentism has shown itself to be strong and I have no idea how to counter it. Facts don’t work, emotional appeals work sporadically at best. They’re already conditioned to fake news and far-right misinformation now, and Trump is using a cult of personality to further pull them from the mainstream.

    There’s too many of them to just ignore, if this was a “third world” country people would talk about the risk of insurgency. But our democratic system is poorly equipped to handle threats like this. Freedom of speech protects liars and bigots and they known to to dishonestly leverage the persecution complexes of their followers to protect themselves a la Milo and Ben Shapiro.

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    HoodooGirl finds White Fragility funnyTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 4:05pm

    Of course, black people on this site will be wholly aware of how racist Russians are towards black people. It is probably the most vehemently racist country in the world outside of the USA and most of Europe (and Australasia). Travel there and you are more likely than not to be attacked and if you are killed the police are as disinterested in investigating it as most western countries.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/15/black-in-the-ussr-whats-life-like-for-a-russian-of-colour

    https://qz.com/869938/how-russia-surpassed-germany-to-become-the-dangerous-new-role-model-for-trump-loving-american-white-supremacists/

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    boredalwaysTerrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 1:32pm

    During the Obama administration, I always felt that that BishPutin was needling him to provoke Obama into a response that Putin could capitalize on. To me, it felt like BishPutin just didn’t like anyone with darker skin than his or others that weren’t like him in his country, such Russia’s LBGTQ community.

    I would have to say I feel vindicated by this report.

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      zipfuelboredalways
      8/09/17 10:17pm

      From my experience there’s quite a lot of inherent racism in Russia because it’s so homogenous; they’ve never seen a black person and they are different and scary. I think there’s also some narrative about being inferior savages leftover from some soviet/colonial past.

      One of my high school friends had a Russian exchange student who said quote prior to going out somewhere: “I hope we don’t see any black people today”

      That Obama aggravated and sanctioned Putin hard a few times must really have galled his superiority complex.

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    Fungirl91Terrell Jermaine Starr
    8/09/17 1:51pm

    They’re teaching their kids to kill too...better watch out. Sometimes, those innocent kids accidentally shoot their parents. And, we wonder why drugs are destroying America.

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