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PaulMooneysTongueDanielle Young
8/06/17 12:59pm
I’m on the fence about this. One, it’s good that Owens got some sort of wake up call but it’s probably got it because he some sort of “memo” from the grim reaper so he wants be ‘right before God’ (since most of these type of men are more stubborn than an ass).
Two, he had this “ah-ha moment” after a reunion that curiously Carter and other black teammates weren’t invited to but Owens got his address afterward?
But if it helps Owens sleep better and act right with POC, more power to him.
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  Hoyo AfrikaPaulMooneysTongue
  8/06/17 1:09pm
  act right with POC
  How much do you want to bet he voted Trump?
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  My Hovercraft Is Full Of EelsPaulMooneysTongue
  8/06/17 1:42pm
  Just because Mr. Carter didn’t go to his reunion, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t invited. In fact, maybe he was invited and chose not to go, specifically because he had some bad memories of racism back in high school.
  And, in all likelihood, noticing the absence of the black players at their reunion is what made their white teammates think about the racism that went on back then.
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Not Enough Day DrinkingDanielle Young
8/06/17 2:09pm
So the moral of the story is ‘don’t try’?
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  Tomi MarchantNot Enough Day Drinking
  8/06/17 2:36pm
  The moral of the story is that words don’t mean shit. Unless Todd there invents a time machine, and goes back to end all the racisms, none of this matters.
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  Not Enough Day DrinkingTomi Marchant
  8/06/17 2:37pm
  So like I said...‘don’t even try.’
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Gaseous Clay, Still Prone to HyperboleDanielle Young
8/06/17 2:32pm
Wow, there are a lot of negative comments down here today
Have none of you ever given an apology you didn’t mean without caring how the other person felt, just to make yourself feel better about whatever you did? I’ve made those apologies before, and they feel exactly like this one does: Out of the blue, not in person, all the words of your apology are about yourself, and you affect no meaningful change to your behavior afterwards. We’ve got three out of four, and I’m not holding my breath that this guy is gonna be down at the BLM rallies from now on. This apology means nothing
tl;dr Owens basically apologised to Owens for making himself feel bad. Now that Carter has accepted this bullshit apology, Owens probably feels that they’re “square” and also that he’s not a racist because he’s got a black friend from his HS basketball team
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  Rooo sez BISH PLZGaseous Clay, Still Prone to Hyperbole
  8/06/17 3:00pm
  He - and his other white classmates - could have done better.
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  Cardi B's Other ShoeGaseous Clay, Still Prone to Hyperbole
  8/06/17 10:44pm
  Owens is worried about St. Peter more that he’s worried about Carter. I’d bet anything they got together, realized how many of them had died, got to thinking about the flames of hell singeing their asshole hairs, and figured it was nigh time to do the ~~right~~ ~~white~~ ~~least difficult~~ white thing.
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Tomi MarchantDanielle Young
8/06/17 12:30pm
Words don’t mean shit.
Thanks for nothing, Todd.
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  Hoyo AfrikaTomi Marchant
  8/06/17 1:08pm
  Right! Like, it’s like he wanted to set everything right before he croaked. I’m not even impressed but I’m disturbed by the internalizing of the older black man involved. Perhaps it’s a sign that, despite going through the hellish world that American racism, he has managed to keep his humanity intact. I really don’t even want to consider the alternatives.
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  Yes...They Are Real!Hoyo Afrika
  8/06/17 2:11pm
  What else would you want the team mate to do?
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JohnySavageDanielle Young
8/06/17 12:29pm
You sure have a fun way of taking a nice, personal story and turning it negative. Sure, there are some very large issues (racism in America) involved in the story. But to me, this was a great story about two men feeling empathy for each other, and an incredibly gracious response by Carter. Of course Carter didn’t have to do what he did. He didn’t owe anything to Owens. He’s been through much more racism-caused strife than Owens’ relatively small amount of guilt for this incident, and he didn’t have to call him to tell him not to feel bad. But he did, which was a kind and human thing to do.
At least Owens recognized that what happened was wrong, and most likely has had some large shifts from what he was probably taught about race from a young age. The alternative to this would be that Owens maintained his racist upbringing and continued to add that hatred to the world.
Why take a positive story and put a negative and cynical spin on it? Does it get you more clicks?
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  videogamepieratJohnySavage
  8/07/17 2:59am
  “The alternative to this would be that Owens maintained his racist upbringing and continued to add that hatred to the world.”
  So its OK to be racist, as long as you apologize for it after 50 years.
  Nice.
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DarkwingChuckDanielle Young
8/06/17 5:27pm
Owens and some of his white classmates got together at a reunion and decided to write the three black players an apology letter
Wait a minute. Were the black players not invite to this reunion.? Or were they invited but understandably chose not to attend?

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  Raineyb1013DarkwingChuck
  8/06/17 10:02pm
  Ignoring the coon who replied to you I’ll repeat what someone else said more pointedly.
  According to the article:
  “I was kind of shocked when I read it because I hadn’t seen or heard from tom since 1961 and then wrote me a letter apologizing to me for something I almost forgot about,” Carter said.
  Given that statement what are the odds that Mr. Carter was invited to the reunion? I say that it’s fairly obvious that he was not; and I would even go so far as to say that this is not the first reunion he was not invited to attend.
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  Cardi B's Other ShoeRaineyb1013
  8/06/17 10:45pm
  If they had the address to send the letter AFTER the reunion, then they would have had it to send him an invitation before, no? Carter was an afterthought.
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Absent HumanityDanielle Young
8/06/17 3:46pm
To the people who are chiding the more cynical of us simply for being so, I feel something needs to be said:
Fuck. Off. With. That. Please. No joke.
As sweet as this could be, or as it wants to be, we live in the real world. In the real world, things like this may warm the heart, but it sure as hell won’t bring warmth to the dead bodies of those we have lost and still lose. This ‘apology’ doesn’t effect any real change. It doesn’t stop our schools from being more segregated now than they were when this white man left his Black teammates behind. It doesn’t decriminalise our children who are assumed to be threats by white people everywhere, then brutalised and killed as such. It doesn’t address the systematic exclusion and destruction of our people, in every visible metric of our lives for hundreds of years. It doesn’t address the Oompa Loompa in the White House who is fucking up everyone’s lives because white people’s racial resentment means more than anything else. All this does is assuage one. person’s. guilt.
In the face of all that is, can I or others really feel happy about that?
White people are not entitled to our joy when they do the bare minimum. They are not entitled to patting themselves on the back when everyday we risk taking a knife or a bullet in ours. But most of all we are certainly not obligated to give a portion of ourselves when we live in a world determined to take whatever scraps we manage to pull together.
As James Baldwin said in The Fire Next Time: “Most Negroes cannot assume that the humanity of white people is more real to them than their color.” Whether this apology is genuine or not, it is still shallow does nothing to change the reality of racism in our lives. We are not obligated to shelve that truth just so they can die in peace. Humanity is a two-way street, and plenty of us are sick and goddamn tired of having to validate everyone else’s before our own.
Some of us are too tired to be as optimistic as some of you. Please respect that.
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det-devil-ailsDanielle Young
8/06/17 2:40pm
It kinda seems like they were both victims of a fucked-up system in different ways.
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  PaulMooneysTonguedet-devil-ails
  8/06/17 2:53pm
  Well that’s how racism works. Glad you’re seeing the light.
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notaquarterbackDanielle Young
8/06/17 12:29pm
They were kids. The man wrote a note, it’s been a long time and I don’t know what else we’d want him to do? I don’t expect Mr. Carter to do anything out of the ordinary to “forgive” the guy or even to forgive him at all, but...I think if the guy was taking stock of his life and this was a thing he felt the need to do, I hope he not only apologize to his former teammate, but to tell his grandkids, kids and future generations about why what he did was wrong and to talk about dismantling oppression.
but that’s asking a lot. ;)
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  Rooo sez BISH PLZnotaquarterback
  8/06/17 3:08pm
  I think if the guy was taking stock of his life and this was a thing he felt the need to do, I hope he not only apologize to his former teammate, but to tell his grandkids, kids and future generations about why what he did was wrong and to talk about dismantling oppression.
  I made a different suggestion, but this is good too.
  but that’s asking a lot. ;)
  No, it isn’t.
  Especially when it’s what wypipo ask of POC - and men of all colors ask of women of all colors - every single solitary day. To explain over and over and over again to people who don’t get it don’t get it don’t get it (and patiently, endlessly patiently, with the right tone and all the tens of thousands of historical citations) why their behavior was wrong.
  Unless you’re saying that he “shouldn’t” have to do more than his compatriots ask of those same POC (and men of all colors ask of women of all color) every single solitary day, because ...
  why??
  /hmm
  Ask yourself. If you don’t think that’s the least he could do, given his relative privilege in society and what people with his same level of privilege consistently and constantly ask - no, demand - of others with less privilege than they have, ask yourself why you think that.
  
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SharonDanielle Young
8/06/17 7:29pm
it’s like a “getting right with jesus” moment, similar to the elderly white man seeking the black maid he got fired when he was a boy. they just don’t want that “black” mark on their st. peter scroll. but again, i’m a cynic.
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