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Global BeetStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 10:44am
“are being too critical of inaudible raps and, by default, those who produce them”
I’m sorry but no. You yourself call it inaudible. How does one defend inaudible music? Isn’t being inaudible the antithesis of music itself?
I remember a couple weeks ago a commenter criticized me for focusing too much on talent and now you’re acknowledging mumble rap is inaudible. I think there is a prerequisite level of delusion that is necessary to defend this style of music.
Also, I feel it necessary to say, I myself am not an “old head” unless you call 28 old. Still think short bus rap is trash.
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  Ara_RichardsGlobal Beet
  7/20/17 11:23am
  I think they are trying to go the noise music route (don’t even bother looking it up, it’s all terrible) where bad sounds are ironically good music now. It’s ironic hipster nonsense.
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  xperimentalGlobal Beet
  7/20/17 11:35am
  clearly inaudible isn’t the correct word choice. you can clearly hear their voice, it’s just not clear what words they’re saying.
  today is literally the first time I’ve heard the term ‘mumble rap’, so I’m not defending this out of some loyalty or anything. but to be honest, I have no problem whatsoever with the idea of it.
  in fact, if i really look at my own appreciation of music, it has nothing to do with the actual lyrics, but instead the rhythm/intonations/sounds of the vocals and how that plays off the instruments, so what’s it actually matter if the words are coherent?
  haven’t you ever listened to music in another language?
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Kinjastars69Stephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 10:11am
I chuckle with my buddies thinking about when we are sitting at the nursing home in our wheelchairs listening to Next Episode
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  Ry-bones, FiST pilotKinjastars69
  7/20/17 10:44am
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  BlakeBortlesandJaymes: The Jake Jortles FilesKinjastars69
  7/20/17 10:46am
  +1 HOLD UP, WAAAAIIIITTT...
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det-devil-ailsStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 10:29am
Sure. Why not? “Everybody Gets A Record Deal!”
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  StupidBurnerAcctdet-devil-ails
  7/20/17 12:28pm
  hottest of takes!
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  R0n1ndet-devil-ails
  7/20/17 6:05pm
  “Where everybody’s a star and hot shit is few and far between. We’re losing grip with what garbage means.” - Black Thought, Star - The Roots
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Donald Trump's Official Dewlap WranglerStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 11:05am
I thought lean was codeine and promethazine?
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LJ909Stephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 12:41pm
My problem with mumble rap is that it all sounds the same with the same beat, and like they said they can say anything on a track and make a hit. They say booty for 4 mins over a trap beat and people gonna say its lit. Theres no talent in it anymore. Not to mention they bringing in way more serious drugs than just weed like it was years ago. Shit that old white housewives used to do is casually mentioned in songs, kids are singing along and its not cool.
There’s no talent there anymore I don’t care what anyone says. Its why you got so many people on social media and Soundcloud trying to come up and be the next one because you can literally just say stupid shit and make it big. Look at how quick Migos came up, and they rap about how they used trap by the subway.
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  Money$$$LJ909
  7/20/17 3:17pm
  Me and my 2 year-old niece just mumbled on a beat for two minutes for fun and I swear it sounded like something you would hear on the radio now a days. I let her just mumble and I did the random ad-libs in the back ground like “Wooo” “Yup” “Swag” and I swear that little girl rode the beat like a pro. Riding the beat while saying nothing isn’t a talent...I have proof a 2 year-old can do it. Riding a beat and spitting lyrics is a talent. Just an example off the top of my head, Outkast “Spaghetti Junction” is amazing how both of them rode the beat, went back and forth, and still spit lyrics. Saying a mumble rapper rides the beat well, is like saying a basketball player is great because he can just dribble the ball and nothing else. There is more to the profession of rapping than just staying on beat.
  Basically the producers are doing all the work today. Future not only mumbles but is highly autotuned, so that dude is doing next to nothing on the actual track. You can’t compare Das Efx to these dudes. Das was flipping words to fit their lyrics with all the wickedty stuff. These dudes are just making noises half the time. Anyone can hum to a beat. Last example. For Future’s “Mask Off” remix feat. Kendrick Lamar you can just remove Future all together and nothing is lost by just letting Kendrick rap. That song just tells you mumble rappers are an entirely different thing and don’t deserved to even be called rappers or hip-hop.
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  LJ909Money$$$
  7/20/17 3:21pm
  Exactly. Its just noise with ad libs and you and you’re niece proved it. But fans will constantly defend them because they getting paid. Non Black people, especially girls, know they lyrics and lust after them because they push a hood bad boy image that they love for whatever reason. Its trash all around. I dont even really care for Kendrick Lamar. His voice is...annoying. But hes an actual rapper. All these other fools aint.
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BlakeBortlesandJaymes: The Jake Jortles FilesStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 10:45am
I’ll let these “artists” cook and be them, but damned if I have to listen to them for a sustained period of time.
And it should be called mumblecore, cause even the pop kids are doing it
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  Ara_RichardsBlakeBortlesandJaymes: The Jake Jortles Files
  7/20/17 11:19am
  Yeah this is some suburban white kid nonsense like that emo bullshit. When most of your fans are “sensitive” white kids in the ‘burbs, it’s time to pout it down.
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In-A-Mazda-Da-VidaStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 11:58am
Counterpoint: It sucks and is indefensible
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AngelaInDetroitStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 10:24am
Get off my lawn Stephen.
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CrunchyThoughtsStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 2:46pm
What is this sorry asshattery you are passing off as analysis? The references you make to the allowances that the jazz genre has made to different flavors and subcategories belies a very important fact, those musicians in the subcategories could/can actually play music. These mumble rappers can speak and are inaudible by your own admission on their music. Don’t ask them to give an interview and hold an actual conversation because their verbal limitations become even more apparent. Perhaps if what they represented was something beyond base level materialism, drug culture, and emasculation of black men you could mention Das EFX and Fu-Schnickens in parlance. Those examples were about more than the basic, very basic and destructive themes and lifestyles these mumble rappers embody. They aren’t even, despite what someone like Lil Yachty would have you believe, simple fun loving party kids. They are tools and are being put to task. Wake up, and stay woke, and realize that none of this happens by accident and stop deceiving your readers into believing there isn’t a larger agenda behind promoting this music and imagery, because it’s clearly working on you Stephen. Don’t settle for this or make the Root’s readers settle for subpar writing, though I wouldn’t be surprise if this was approved simply to provoke reaction or further the Univision agenda, because it’s not like there’s a bunch my brown latin brothers and sisters in the telenovelas or as news readers on the Spanish language outlets.
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DyoNicerStephen A. Crockett Jr.
7/20/17 10:49am
“I would argue that mumble-rapping is akin to jazz scatting, where the rapper is riding the beat, making his voice into more of an instrument.”
Speaking of Xanax and lean do you want to take the time to admit something to the group Steven? Cause there ain’t SHIT artistic or “scat” about these caint spell ADD jigaboos.
How you gonna bring Ornette Coleman into THIS?
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  burnthismuthadown wants Tokers Town feathersDyoNicer
  7/20/17 1:25pm
  This fucking comment made me snort like a pig. You did not just use the j word!
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  Soviet OreliusDyoNicer
  7/20/17 4:32pm
  The first artist Kyle was pretty dope and Anime had some talent and xxtenaction intrigued me, but the rest of it was straight trash. Ugly God and Kamiyahah... go back to talent night please that was so weak.
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