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    Not Enough Day DrinkingMonique Judge
    7/17/17 10:53pm
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    That’s not how memory works. You don’t remember things better the further away you get. If you inaccurately remember it that day, you’ll inaccurately remember it a month later.

    This bullshit excuse just gives all the police involved a chance to corroborate their stories.

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    Mr.DuckSauceMonique Judge
    7/17/17 10:50pm

    Hell fucking yes, its no different than fucking interrogating people like they are suspects when they are not in fact under suspicion and somehow are put into prison because of pressure from the cops for a false confession.

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      Dr. Dee KnightMr.DuckSauce
      7/18/17 5:48am

      your first 3 words was my EXACT response in my head! i’m a clinical psychologist and studies show us we forget 90% of behavioral observations just 24 hours later. 48 hours? 48 hours???!!!! smh

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      hillratDr. Dee Knight
      7/18/17 8:22am

      For a group of people who claim to be “rational” conservatives sure do take every opportunity to ignore facts, studies, and peer-reviewed research.

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    strangeWindmillMonique Judge
    7/17/17 11:34pm

    Police officers who allegedly commit murders should be given the same rights as civilians who do the same - but not a single right beyond that.

    In other words, they have the right to the fifth amendment. They have a right to a lawyer before making a statement or admission. They have a right to innocence until proven guilty.

    However:

    They do not have a right to a 48 hour breather before anyone interrogates them. They do not have a right to hide evidence. They do not have a right to use their position to avoid prosecution. And they do not have a right to avoid the same assumption of guilt they heap on non-officers.

    So really, I think the true issue is that officers are treated like gods in the public justice system, whereas they should be treated like civilians who happen to be unusually well trained with firearms.

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      MalcirestrangeWindmill
      7/18/17 8:17am

      I think the point the DA made is about how their statement in the admin review may be inadmissible in the criminal investigation if compelled on condition of employment. But I don’t see how 48 hours would be some magical number, seems pretty arbitrary to me.

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    Pernicious SlugMonique Judge
    7/17/17 11:08pm

    it can’t prosecute cases in which the city compelled an officer to give their account of a shooting immediately after it happens

    They don’t seem to have a problem prosecuting non-cops with statements made immediately after an event, even when these statements are made under duress or coercion.

    Police unions, which generally support the 48-hour rule (which exists in multiple other states), tend to argue that after a traumatic event like a shooting, an officer is more likely to give an inaccurate statement because of the stressful experience if he or she is forced to immediately recount it to internal affairs.

    Of course the criminal gangs will do anything to support their goons. Why is this standard not being applied to citizens also or are the citizens combat hardened veterans that not traumatized by an event like a shooting compared to the soft and traumatized “trained officers”?

    48 hours are more than enough to meet with other cops and union gang members, coordinate their stories, perhaps even learn crucial information from the scene they may not know. Statements should be taken immediately after the event and in an isolated space without contact with other cops that were present in the scene.

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    GearoidDubhMonique Judge
    7/17/17 10:55pm

    If it’s long enough to coordinate story easily, it’s too long. 48 hours seems particularly problematic.

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    ThirdAmendmentManMonique Judge
    7/17/17 11:53pm

    Just treat every police shooting as if it were a criminal investigation. There’s no law protecting civilians from being questioned within 48 hours of a shooting so there shouldn’t be for cops either. If they want to deny questioning based on their Constitutional rights then they can be suspended without pay until the investigation is over.

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    KCJMonique Judge
    7/18/17 1:32am

    I absolutely agree. They should be silent. They should have the right to remain. Then they should have the right to obtain an attorney, if they can’t then one should be provided to them. Yeah. That process ( they definitely should be processed) should take about 48 hours.

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    federaleMonique Judge
    7/18/17 9:48am

    yes.

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    Raineyb1013Monique Judge
    7/17/17 10:54pm

    Yes, 48 hours is too long it gives them plenty of time to get their stories straight and lets them use the incident report to get their lies together.

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