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    Not Enough Day DrinkingKirsten West Savali
    2/06/17 8:27pm

    Well there’s something misleading about using wealth as a measure to compare the importance of education. Education is about income. Wealth is the accumulation of income over time.

    If you’re the first generation of your family to attend college, you’re not going to instantly build massive wealth stockpile. But your income WILL be higher (on average) than your non-educated white counterparts, and your wealth will grow faster than theirs.

    The continuing issue is that whites at every educational level earn more than their minority counterparts:

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      Kirsten West SavaliNot Enough Day Drinking
      2/06/17 8:46pm

      The importance of education was not called into question, so that’s really a red herring.

      Also, the stat you presented—also from Demos—shows a widening in the income gap at the bachelor’s degree level. Yes, whites out-earning people of color at every level is a continuing issue.

      This report states that attending college does not close the wealth gap and you haven’t presented anything to challenge that.

       

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      Not Enough Day DrinkingKirsten West Savali
      2/06/17 9:03pm

      Sorry, it seemed to me the entire article was questioning the value of education, including the title. The simplest way to close the wealth gap (simplest, not necessarily best) is to send a higher percentage of minorities to college than their white counterparts. If 50% of minorities get a college education and only 30% of white people do, the wealth gap closes. It doesn’t address the income gaps at various levels at all, but it closes the wealth gap.

      Also neglected is the fact Americans, as a whole, are losing wealth. That includes white people

      the share of income held by middle-income families has plunged to 43% of households in 2015 versus 62% in 1971

      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/americas-middle-class-has-lost-nearly-30-of-wealth-2015-12-09

      Breaking into the middle class at a time when the middle class is disappearing would be hard enough without the racial elements.

      What the article lacks is any meaningful alternative. Yup. Things aren’t good. So what do we do about? Sit back and wait for them get to good? Complain about it until white people willingly give up their preferred status? I’m sure that’s right around the corner...

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    SaidTheTickTockManKirsten West Savali
    2/06/17 5:52pm

    As much as I want to believe this sort of research will make an impact, I’m starting to suspect nothing less than a proclamation of God would be able to overcome white people’s capacity for self delusion. And maybe not even that- people would probably say something like ‘God really shouldn’t be weighing in on political matters.’

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      Cardi B's Other ShoeSaidTheTickTockMan
      2/06/17 7:22pm

      But he lived so long ago! He can’t possibly understand the world today.

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      scalfinSaidTheTickTockMan
      2/06/17 11:42pm

      There are a lot of old Jewish jokes about God being overruled. They all come down to making fun of how ridiculously stringent halakhic debate is when it comes to citations of extant text and use of logic.

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    MotoKirsten West Savali
    2/06/17 6:40pm

    College for a black doesn’t mean same opportunities as a white with the same education. Comments on social media and blogs to African diaspora like this are common: “We know that most of you are janitors and dishwashers even if you have college degrees.” For example recent African immigrants are said to be a community with the highest college education of any community in US. However that’s it. We are not the community with highest CEOs, highest college teachers or highest managers of anything. Once I told myself maybe most of us study criminal justice or religious studies. That was before I was fired from my job with a master degree in engineering. Since then I can’t get a job that’s not minimum wage as my accent and kinta kunte names add another problem. My only option that African Americans by birth and ancestry don’t have or is very hard for them to consider is that I am about to pack and go back to Africa. There are problems there too but I can deal with them better than I can do with this so called post racial society.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s-

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      "Hachi"Moto
      2/06/17 6:52pm

      :(

      I dont want you to be disheartened. I dont know what else to say.

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