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    lethekkKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 1:59pm

    Leaving the whole 'separation of church and state' aside, do these people actually believe that the creator of the universe actually cares which of two local football teams wins or loses? If he does, doesn't that mean that practice is useless? Just hold a random lottery to choose student players every week (or however often you play games), put those kids on the field against the opposing team, and see which players God loves best.

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      Carlotta79lethekk
      5/10/13 2:01pm

      Does God care when a recording artist with misogynistic lyrics or a penchant for beating women or skipping out on child support payments wins a Grammy? OF COURSE HE DOES!

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      Gemmabetalethekk
      5/10/13 2:02pm

      Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

      —Matthew 10:29-30

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    beatrixkiddoKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:13pm

    I think what they're doing is fine if they (the cheerleaders) actually all agree with what's being put on the banners. I am in favor of freedom of religion, but I think that should mean administrators and teachers should never tell students what god to believe in or whether to believe in God at all. I think students should be able to express themselves how they want (and yes, I would think the same if they were all Muslim cheerleaders displaying Koran verses).

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      yvanehtniojbeatrixkiddo
      5/10/13 2:19pm

      When you suit up in your cheerleading uniform, you're representing the school, which is in this instance a public school. The same reasoning applies to explain why administrators can't tell a kid to write something religious on a sign and spectators in the stands can bring whatever religious signs they want. Agent of the school can't promote religion because it's a violation of the Establishment Clause. Individual who is not a sanctioned representative of the school can, because of the Free Exercise Clause.

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      Rebecca2010yvanehtnioj
      5/10/13 2:26pm

      They represent the school's students who care about sports, not all the students, let alone the authority figures. This is widely known and understood.

      It falls under the Free Exercise Clause.

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    Ginger, get the popcorn!Kristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:10pm

    So I assume everyone at this school would have been cool with it if a bunch of Jewish or Muslim or Hindu cheerleaders made a sign with verses from their Holy books? No? Oh, do you mean to say that right-wing Christians in this country are hypocritical when it comes to religious freedom?

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      MadPiglet loves West HamGinger, get the popcorn!
      5/10/13 2:13pm

      I would LOVE this to happen. I'm more than willing to donate a bunch of Sharpies to help it happen.

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      Rebecca2010Ginger, get the popcorn!
      5/10/13 2:30pm

      This is a homogeneity and practicality issue, not a hypocrisy issue.

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    LaComtesseKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:43pm

    So in Texas, you represent yourself when you cheer people on in Jesus' name (for ever and ever. Amen.) but you represent the School when you refuse to cheer for your rapist, so obviously they have to kick you off the team.

    GIF
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      Yog-Sothoth is the GateLaComtesse
      5/10/13 3:21pm

      This one right here

      GIF
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      LaComtesseYog-Sothoth is the Gate
      5/10/13 3:22pm

      Preach.

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    nopunin10didKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:07pm

    I think what the cheerleaders are missing is that when they speak as a cheerleading team, at an officially sanctioned school sporting event, they represent not themselves, but their school.

    There is nothing wrong with an individual person expressing faith. Their public school, however, cannot have a faith. They have to set that outward show of faith aside for the role they take up. It's part of what one sacrifices to be a cheerleader.

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      burnanothernopunin10did
      5/10/13 2:21pm

      Indeed. If this was a religious school, supported by religious donations of religious people, I really wouldn't care. But if they're going to stand up in public school uniforms and hold up a religious text, there's a problem.

      So, stop doing it, or at least have the decency to take the uniforms off first.

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      Rebecca2010nopunin10did
      5/10/13 2:29pm

      Disagree. Cheerleaders represent themselves. The majority of students are not cheerleaders and do not identify with them. They fight against shitty funding and not being represented as their own sport. They simply don't hold the power you suggest they do.

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    BobLobLaw2013Kristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 3:45pm

    If you think your God will make sure you win a football match but didn't do shit to prevent the Rwanda genocide then I want nothing to do with him. Or you.

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      CHIEF QUEEFBobLobLaw2013
      5/10/13 5:09pm

      Let me introduce you to the venerable evangelical Christian tradition known as Biblical cherrypicking.

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      BobLobLaw2013CHIEF QUEEF
      5/10/13 5:15pm

      I figured it was something like that.

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    rollsniderollKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:12pm

    I really, really need to know how the name of this school is pronounced. Because there's a big difference between saying "Kountz" for Christ and "Cuntz" for Christ.

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      notcindycrawfordrollsnideroll
      5/10/13 2:14pm

      It's rhymes with Toonce, the driving cat.

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      rollsniderollnotcindycrawford
      5/10/13 2:19pm

      Thank you! ;)

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    GemmabetaKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:31pm

    I wonder how long by "Allahu Akbar" sign will last on the field.

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      dailylamaGemmabeta
      5/10/13 2:53pm

      Yup...that would be downright un-a-murican!

      Personally I don't like the idea of bible verses on the banners. Religion is like a cock, feel free to have one, but I don't want to see it.

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      BobLobLaw2013dailylama
      5/10/13 4:51pm

      And don't shove it down my childrens' throats, please.

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    Violet BaudelaireKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:02pm

    I'd just like to give the parent that complained a big old hug. It takes a lot to live in a Texas, in a part of Texas where a judge feels comfortable blatantly ruling against separation of church and state, and stand up against that and say "This isn't right, and this isn't allowed". And I'm sure they're getting a lot of bullshit thrown at them now.

    Parent, whomever you are, you did the right thing. And you're right. You're a reasonable, rational human being who knows the laws of their country.

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      Ari Schwartz: Dark Lord of the SnarkViolet Baudelaire
      5/10/13 2:25pm

      To be fair, the courts have always been somewhat wishy-washy on the Establishment clause.

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    yvanehtniojKristine Gutierrez
    5/10/13 2:09pm

    People are lighting up my Facebook feed with glory hallelujahs for this case like someone's rights were really at stake. If we can't even watch scantily-clad teenaged girls jump around holding misappropriated Bible verses while eating Frito Pies at a high school football game anymore, is this even AMERICA??!!?

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