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    Freddie DeBoerGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:11am

    I wonder how long people will keep up the pretense that this is a close race. It’s very useful for the DNC to discipline the party and prevent left-wing reform, but it’s looking more and more likely that this is an overwhelming landslide in the making, maybe the biggest since ‘84.

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      Alaska FrambopolousFreddie DeBoer
      8/08/16 9:17am

      Hillary is up 26 points in most polls this morning.

      Can’t we tell the poll people to tone it down a little bit? This will make people not bother to come out and vote!

      And also, is that some kind of record? 26pts? Has to be.

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      Low Information BoaterFreddie DeBoer
      8/08/16 9:17am

      This Minnesotan is voting for Trump, exactly in hopes of an '84 repeat.

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    IAMBlastedBiggsLostBurnerGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:18am

    Well, it’s a nice try, but if you’re going to promote someone to try and siphon off votes from the nominees, shouldn’t it be somebody voters actually know?

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      Alaska FrambopolousIAMBlastedBiggsLostBurner
      8/08/16 9:27am

      Like who, Hitler? That would be the only person that Trump supporters would rather vote for.

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      Goes To ElevenIAMBlastedBiggsLostBurner
      8/08/16 9:34am

      The problem there is that all of the known people are either unacceptable to the R base or are reviled by the wider voting public (you know, like Ted Cruz).

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    Quasar FunkGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:16am

    A graduate of Brigham Young University and the Wharton School of Business, McMullin’s brief bio also includes a Mormon mission and stints in the CIA and Goldman Sachs.

    Jesus Christ, might as well throw Hydra in there as well.

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      IAMBlastedBiggsLostBurnerQuasar Funk
      8/08/16 9:19am

      Word is, his strategists are having a difficult time with getting him to break the "Hail Hydra!" habit.

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      MajorBurnQuasar Funk
      8/08/16 9:31am

      Too soon?

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    wordtrey2Gabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:51am

    What strikes me as really odd:

    If Utah, Idaho, and Texas are in play, then there is no way Hillary could lose. So, it is hard to see how this can be designed to keep Trump from the presidency. If you wanted to stop Trump, you’d back a candidate to hurt him in Pennsylvania. Sure, Hillary is probably going to win Pennsylvania, but it is the check-mate move this cycle.

    Is it to keep Gary Johnson from getting a big enough turnout that he causes some issues?

    Something to do with the state/local races in those states?

    Is it just a bunch of rich dudes who don’t have anything better to do?

    Does Idaho even have electoral votes?

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      flamingolingowordtrey2
      8/08/16 10:09am

      Any Republican with even an ounce of animal cunning has to realize it would be more advantageous for them to lose 2016 and focus on making HRC a one-term president while rebuilding the party.

      You also can’t underestimate the moral revulsion Trump triggers in people who actually walk the walk when it comes to their values.

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      cdavis17wordtrey2
      8/08/16 10:51am

      I think it’s mostly ego, with maybe a little bit of concern for down ballot races thrown in.

      These guys really don’t want to support Trump,the guy who beat the pants off all their chosen candidates in the primary. And no one is going to tell them that they have to support Hillary by default. So they’re making up their own game as a salve to their bruised egos.

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    BreakerBakerGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:18am

    So the goal is to siphon whatever he can manage from Trump and Johnson, in order to weaken both Trump’s and the strongest third-party candidate’s almost nonexistent chances of picking off any states and forcing a Constitutional crisis that would have the House of Representatives selecting the next president from the top three vote getters?

    I don’t want to jump the gun, but that may be the most legitimate argument in favor of a third-party candidacy that I’ve heard.

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      lena dunhams boobsBreakerBaker
      8/08/16 9:24am

      It would be beyond impossible to spark a constitutional crisis with that arrangement.

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      Wile_EBreakerBaker
      8/08/16 9:36am

      Which is why both sides hate third party candidates. Even if it means helping defeat someone they hate, they’ll run a complete unknown as an Independant rather than show support for a third party.

      Conservatives hate Libertarians for being socially progressive. Progressives hate Libertarians for being economically conservative and opposing government regulation. Neither party has tolerance for anything approaching a true centrist position.

      There is also no tolerance for a strong third party because this nation has never had a real third party. Any time a new party has gained sufficient strength, it has supplanted one of the existing two parties. See the end of the Whig Party.

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    Ginger Is A ConstructGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:20am

    Apparently a candidate has to be polling at 15% in at least three polls to be allowed at the debates. Gary Johnson had 11% in one poll, I am guessing that if McMullin pulls votes from Johnson then this will insure that Clinton and Trump get to go head-to-head solo at the debates.

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      Declan HackettGinger Is A Construct
      8/08/16 9:24am

      I am guessing that if McMullin pulls votes from Johnson then this will insure that Clinton and Trump an empty chair get to go head-to-head solo.

      FTFY! And let’s be honest - the empty chair will still deliver a more intelligent and charismatic performance than Trump…

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      Ginger Is A ConstructDeclan Hackett
      8/08/16 9:27am

      Hey, I’m still hopeful that Trump will be deluded enough to show up to the first debate.

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    JustActSurprisedGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:52am

    In this modern era, we do not elect bald presidents. Vice Presidents, fine. But presidents? The last time we elected one was 1956. And yes, I know it’s not an important measure, but the average American voters is stupid, vain, and fickle.

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      pleasestopthispopupJustActSurprised
      8/08/16 11:20am

      or short presidents. I think Obama was the first shorter person to be elected (in 2012) in a long time too

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      RemusShepherdpleasestopthispopup
      8/08/16 12:31pm

      Obama is 6'1". Taller than Dubya.

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    ArdenGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:34am

    Good on these Conservatives! It’s rugged individualism like this that we respect; throwing what The Party TELLS you to do back in their faces. “No, sir, I will NOT fall in line. I have a moral compass and ideology that runs counter to the way the party is moving,” is what I imagine these idealist heroes to say. For all of Cruz’s failings the best thing he did was take a stand by his gut and refuse to endorse Trump. Sometimes the high ground is the one you forge for yourself, and these coward republicans that only follow The Party should be ashamed!

    And that’s why it’s incredibly important that we Liberals all fall on line and do what The Party tells us to do. Screw your idealism, screw your morals. In these times its important-heroic even- to stick to the message. When your party leaders say ‘Jump’ it is the noblest path to scream as obediently as you can “how high!?” The moral high ground is the one you are told to walk, and these disgusting Bernie or Bust, or Jill Stein followers need to understand the damage that their personal ideals are doing to The Party.

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      Richard PunchArden
      8/08/16 9:51am

      An excellent attempt, but it has less to do with “the party” And a whole metric fuckton to do with saving the world from mutually assured destruction.

      But the Bernie bot sarcasm has been noted. Thank you for finally getting involved in an election.

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      desertbruinzArden
      8/08/16 9:52am

      Nice job setting up and destroying your own point all in one extremely self-righteous post.

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    99Telep☺dpr☹blemsGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 9:26am

    I am certain that him being a former CIA agent will in no way raise the suspicious ire of Trump supporters.

    GIF
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      orangetoffee99Telep☺dpr☹blems
      8/08/16 9:36am

      Alex Jones would be hilarious if he weren’t serious.

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      pleasestopthispopup99Telep☺dpr☹blems
      8/08/16 11:17am

      remind me, what was one of papi bush’s jobs?

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    philaDLJGabrielle Bluestone
    8/08/16 10:11am

    Can we please dispel the fiction that voting for Trump and voting for Clinton are equally bad choices? They are not equally bad choices.

    Forgetting to wear sunscreen on the beach and lighting yourself on fire are not equally bad choices.

    Eating a whole Big Mac by yourself and eating a whole Turducken by yourself are not equally bad choices.

    Running over a mailbox and running over a child are not equally bad choices.

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