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    ZukkaJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:07pm

    She is so intelligent, and such a strong person, I want to admire Megyn Kelly, I really do!

    But so many of her views are just so thoroughly repugnant, it’s like GOD DAMNIT CANT YOU BE SO SMART AND BADASS AND ALSO NOT AN ASSHOLE?!

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      Voodoo-uZukka
      7/19/16 1:10pm

      Seconded. When she stood up to a guest who was bitching about women getting maternity leave, I thought perhaps she finally had enough of the BS she was being paid to spew. Nope, not yet. And then when she took drumpf to task for his misogynistic bullshit, I thought, finally! Break the chains, Megyn! Nope. Still a shill for crazy.

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      Sean BrodyZukka
      7/19/16 1:12pm

      It says a lot about where we are at this time, that we are almost confused if we have feelings of respect for anyone on the other side of the political divide.

      Or maybe it was ever thus.

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    FelixElixJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:15pm

    I hate it for Megyn Kelly, but I’m excited that the beliefs and unspoken rules of Roger Ailes and his generation are dying out in full public view. I hope my daughter’s response to this someday will be “Why didn’t she just report it first thing?”, that it can hopefully be taken for granted that this kind of crap is beyond the pale and shouldn’t be tolerated.

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      Regression-TestFelixElix
      7/19/16 1:32pm

      Except when it’s not, the climate for women in STEM is horrific, even more so in civilian military positions.

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      FelixElixRegression-Test
      7/19/16 1:39pm

      Both my wife and I work in STEM, and maybe I’m being too optimistic, but the vast majority of people we’ve encountered that are at an Ailes-level of creepiness and chauvinism are very senior men, the kind that money and tenure protect, but also who will be retired in 10 years. Are you in statistics (asking because of your screen name)? I can’t speak for the military.

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    ObtuseLautrecJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:12pm

    We need to exhume Orville Redenbacher. I need copious quantities of popcorn and I will not be satisfied with anything that is not touched by the Master of the Popped Kernel. And don’t try to push that millenial grandson on me. I need me some Orville for this most historic time in America.

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      Non-Smoking LifeboatsObtuseLautrec
      7/19/16 1:16pm
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      Gamblor JDObtuseLautrec
      7/19/16 1:16pm

      Orville Redenbacher is dead?!?

      This is the worst thing I’ll read on the internet all week!

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    VanNostrandJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:12pm

    Megyn, join NPR and do a tell-all on how you’ve been faking it this whole time. And walk that white Santa thing back too, please.

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      A_Copy_EditorVanNostrand
      7/19/16 1:35pm

      THAT WOULD BE LEGENDARY.

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      MattVanNostrand
      7/19/16 1:38pm

      Thats the thing, I don’t think she’s been fake. I think she is an intelligent woman who has some very horrible views on things.

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    Sean BrodyJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:08pm

    Kelly’s heretofore total lack of involvement in Fox’s response to the lawsuit.

    She would like to be excluded from this narrative

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      DissidentSocialistSean Brody
      7/19/16 1:14pm

      Weren’t you cancelled and forgotten? (Yes, I believe the real Craig Ferguson is probably pathetic enough to be Sean Brody.)

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      Sean BrodyDissidentSocialist
      7/19/16 1:17pm

      Weren’t you cancelled and forgotten? (Yes, I believe the real Craig Ferguson is probably pathetic enough to be Sean Brody.)

      That’s mean. On a few levels.

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    DisMyBurnerBaeJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 6:08pm

    Correct, you can have someone sexually harass you and still perform well at work. I love how some lawyers try and use the fact that not everyone quits as soon as it happens as “proof of lies”.

    Fucking lawyer “logic”.

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      KnightXCastleDisMyBurnerBae
      7/19/16 7:12pm

      The correct use of fucking lawyer logic when someone stays in a job for years after being harassed is not to offer the fact as evidence that the event never happened but to challenge the claim that the plaintiff suffered terrible emotional damages. That’s how a fucking lawyer does it.

      There are lawyers on both sides, btw, some of whom represent victims of sexual harassment for free.

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      DisMyBurnerBaeKnightXCastle
      7/20/16 11:41am

      Right, they are trying to show that there is a lie, “there was no suffering”

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    Skipping along to our shared destructionJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:09pm

    “According to two sources,” Sherman writes, “yesterday afternoon lawyers for 21st Century Fox gave Ailes a deadline of August 1st to resign or face being fired for cause.”

    Yes, clearly, we’re all working under the same set of rules and expectations. No reason to question the established order. Feel free to grossly endanger your enterprise, then demand your half-month and a choice about being fired with cause or resigning. See how that goes.

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      not_productiveSkipping along to our shared destruction
      7/19/16 1:17pm

      It’s generally better for Fox if he resigns - tougher (not impossible, but tougher) for him to bring a wrongful termination suit, plus I would assume there’s some kind of severance/release deal on the table. I’m guessing Ailes loses some part of his standard severance if he’s terminated for cause, but he’d retain the right to sue for wrongful term, which would be expensive and embarrassing for Fox.

      At the end of the day, they’re really just arguing (fucking maddeningly) about how many millions of dollars Ailes gets to walk away.

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      Skipping along to our shared destructionnot_productive
      7/19/16 2:13pm

      I get that, and I get that executive termination, even for cause, is not handled the same way as other cases. Which is a symptom of the underlying problem (inequality as institutional norm) I see here.

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    A_Copy_EditorJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 1:34pm

    Yeah, but if Greta Van Susteren says he didn’t do it, then what are you going to do? Believe the women who were harassed? That would be a little ridiculous, don’t you think?

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      under_electricliteA_Copy_Editor
      7/20/16 2:54am

      Ah yes, the woman who needed a facelift before starting a new show on Fox News. And I’m sure no one at Fox subtly suggested a “freshening up” of her look during those contract negotiations.

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    TheDamnPaterfamiliasJ.K. Trotter
    7/19/16 2:00pm
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      dvdoffJ.K. Trotter
      7/19/16 1:14pm

      It’s like Grace Kelly and Alfred Hitchcock! Only jowlier!

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