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Free Market Party CompanyAndy Cush
7/07/16 5:48pm
I truly hate the argument that we’re supposed to be in a “post-racist” society and that “everyone is equal now” and that it’s unfair for whites to bear a burden from generations past.

The thing is, a) those generations aren’t that far past and b) it ignores that those centuries of oppression gave whites systemic advantages that they actually still enjoy (even if we don’t want to admit it).

Systemic racism is a thing. Humanity is not some zero-sum game where a dominant group has to give ground for other groups to gain parity. We all suffer here.

—Angry White Guy
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  TjM78Free Market Party Company
  7/07/16 5:52pm
  What the fuck burden do I need to bear? I’m fuckimg broke and white how in the fuck am I oppressing anyone my ancestors where Scottish Irish endentured servants
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  EpitrepontesFree Market Party Company
  7/07/16 5:54pm
  Louis CK has a bit where he says whites aren’t just going to fall from #1 to #2 that there’s going to be some payback. At times like these I hope it’s a real bitch. I’ve had the good life and the advantages of having a pink penis, but fuck it we need to pay it back one day, and probably will.
  
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kyngfishAndy Cush
7/07/16 5:49pm
We keep seeing this same scenario play out, and we refuse to examine police protocol and behavior and keep blaming the victims.

What if police were trained to de-escalate and avoid confrontation until it became absolutely necessary. Police apologists will tell you that this is exactly what they do most of the time, but clearly, not enough.

And for the second amendment fuckers, how can we keep seeing this same play over and over again, and not recognize that weapons make any situation infinitely worse, and the chance for tragedy much higher?

We should consider that we don’t live in a society where ANYONE should be carrying guns, police included, and sometimes ESPECIALLY police.

“Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” Gasoline doesn’t kill people either, but its presence means that a huge number of situations that can spark a fire go from relatively harmless, to explosive. This isn’t fucking hard.

Clarification: In no way was Philando Castile at fault for getting shot by carrying a gun. On the contrary, the US gun culture and the gun as a necessary police tool virtually guarantees that police will escalate many situations to life or death unnecessarily.
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  AlabamaManWithBowlingActionkyngfish
  7/07/16 5:58pm
  Wait a second here. Are you saying that because Philando Castile was carrying a LICENSED firearm its his fault for getting shot?
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  kyngfishAlabamaManWithBowlingAction
  7/07/16 5:59pm
  Nope. I’m saying the police officer having a gun and being trained to use it almost forces them to escalate everything to a life and death decision.
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FrankloCamponaAndy Cush
7/07/16 5:51pm
It’s interestingly how neatly the second amendment supports white supremacy. It allows anyone, even a civilian, to murder a black man and get away with it via the excuse of self defense. And if black people try to participate in ‘self-defense’ themselves it only serves as greater pretext to assassinate them.
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  ad infinitumFrankloCampona
  7/07/16 6:05pm
  It’s been amazing to watch Gawker’s component of gun nuts (you know, the same ones who continually claim that citizens need to be armed at all times to protect against an oppressive government) falling all over themselves to explain how Castile brought this on himself because he shouldn’t have been in possession of the gun he had a license to carry.
  
  The Second Amendment is for white people. They don’t even try to pretend otherwise. “Good guy with a gun” = “white guy with a gun.”
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  Gestapo LibrarianFrankloCampona
  7/07/16 6:06pm
  
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Mr.PeepersAndy Cush
7/07/16 6:15pm
America is full of white terrorists. You’re 200+ years late. Too bad Blacks telling you this is what was happening wasn’t good enough right? We need video evidence and even then let’s wait for a background check of the victim. You people and your nation of murder and terror are scum. You’re all complicit until you do something to stop the murders committed on your behalf by those selectively employed by those you elected. Do something to stop it or shut the fuck up.
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  Kony TornheiserMr.Peepers
  7/07/16 6:19pm
  This is an effective comment. It seems like you really want to see a change, and that you’re not just here to feel indignant.
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  Mr.PeepersKony Tornheiser
  7/07/16 6:20pm
  As effective as yours. Go fuck yourself.
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DorthyDandridgeEyesAndy Cush
7/07/16 6:01pm
Uh Andy good article but you forgot all the black women who have also been murdered by the police. Especially one that haunts me. Aiyanna Jones who was 7 was shot and killed while sleeping on her grandmothers couch smh http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/58246…
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  DoobyOneDorthyDandridgeEyes
  7/07/16 6:13pm
  Dismiss bramble knot, he’s a shitty racist.
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  DorthyDandridgeEyesDoobyOne
  7/07/16 6:16pm
  Its done
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nosleepdreamsAndy Cush
7/07/16 6:07pm
This is a really good article. What needs to be made plain is that we must understand black criminality as a whole as resulting from centuries of racism and disenfranchisement. People always want to bring up statistics of black and black crime as if that somehow alters the conversation being had about white supremacy and police violence.... Well look in the mirror everyone. You cannot destroy communities and populations and then wonder why crime becomes socially and economically viable. It astounds me that people shout of shit about black on black crime with no thought to the societal factors that shape and encourage such violence. The fault is and will continue to be on white america until we seriously and transformatively reckon with our own violent and racist past and dedicate ourselves to changing the present.
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  WorldsBiggestNBAFannosleepdreams
  7/07/16 6:16pm
  Black crime rates were lower pre-Civil Rights and began rising post Civil Rights.
  
  That makes “racism” a very weak idea for the cause of high black crime rates.
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  Das, evil rabbit and obnoxious (half)germanWorldsBiggestNBAFan
  7/07/16 6:35pm
  That happened during the same decades in which white veterans of WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were able to use the benefits of the GI Bill, which were denied to minorities... A black veteran could technically access those benefits according to the law, sure, but if no university would accept him, no bank would lend to him, and no neighborhood would sell to him he was effectively barred. White Americans got a huge leg up from the GI Bill that black Americans did not, and it widened the racial poverty gap quite a bit. And with the correlation that exists between poverty and crime I don’t think it’s too much of a reach to say that racist housing and education policies which kept African-Americans poor have led to higher crime rates.
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weebleswobbleAndy Cush
7/07/16 5:44pm
The white governor of Minnesota flat out said Castile was killed because he was Black. A glimmer of hope sneaks through.

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  cruise-controllerweebleswobble
  7/07/16 5:50pm
  While I totally agree that black people get killed by cops more often, it does happen to white people as well - like that dude in Arizona who said “Don’t Shoot” as he was lying on the ground.
  
  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/…
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  The Shape of Punk to Comecruise-controller
  7/07/16 5:52pm
  Cool. Go find that article and comment on that. No one needs to be reminded that white people get killed too. We already know.
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SrynersonAndy Cush
7/07/16 5:56pm
The shooting of Castile is completely inexcusable from the evidence so far, whereas the lawfulness of Sterling’s shooting is a closer question for anyone exercising an ounce of objective thought. You do Castile and his family a deep disservice by connecting his death to Sterling’s, because, NEWSFLASH, even in a hypothetical society without any racial prejudice, wrestling with a couple of police officers is very likely going to have bad consequences, fatal or otherwise.
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  Raging BulldogSrynerson
  7/07/16 6:28pm
  This. These do not need to be lumped together. It’s insulting to Castile’s family and legacy. Sterling’s death will require much more investigation before anyone should come to a conclusion about what happened.
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  ReburnsABurningReturnsSrynerson
  7/07/16 6:40pm
  Especially if you have a gun in your pocket.
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PrettyLegitAndy Cush
7/07/16 7:16pm
“White Americans put Sterling’s and Castile’s ancestors on a slave ship across the Atlantic Ocean”

African tribal leaders looking to trade for European goods likely put them on the ship. It may have been sailed by white europeans, but I think that’s an important note to make.
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  just a stupid burnerPrettyLegit
  7/07/16 7:25pm
  I think it is an important note to make that instead of finding homegrown Euros to be slaves, they went to Africa.
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  GarThwePrettyLegit
  7/07/16 7:36pm
  Get fucked. This is bullshit history, a very dishonest interpretation used by racist trash to try and confuse the issue and promote their own racist ideologies.
  
  African leaders were often forced, sometimes at gunpoint, into the slave trade. Pretending otherwise marks you as both ignorant of history and racist.
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MWarnerMAndy Cush
7/07/16 6:40pm
“Certainly, many white people are driven to carry firearms as well, whether for reasons of recreation, paranoia, or an abstract sense of liberty; they are rarely punished by instantaneous death without trial for exercising this constitutional right.”

I’m sorry, but this is simply not true. Half of all civilians killed by police in America are white. This is disproportionately low for their population makeup but it’s hardly “rare”, especially when you take into account overall racial disparities in crime and arrests. And studies including a lab simulation at WSU shown that police officers are actually SLOWER to use lethal force against armed black suspects than armed white ones.

There are a lot of important conversations to be had about the very real lingering racism in the criminal justice system. We can have those conversations without just making shit up.
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  GarThweMWarnerM
  7/07/16 7:34pm
  “But what about the white people!” argument makes you look like a shitty person. This isn’t the time or the place.
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  MWarnerMGarThwe
  7/07/16 7:45pm
  Pointing out factually incorrect information which falsely suggests that white people are not victims of police violence does not make me a shitty person. As I said earlier, racial bias is very real in criminal justice and black people are disproportionately victims of it. This is a serious problem, and how we go about fixing it is an important conversation for the country to have. Lies do not need to be part of that conversation. It’s counterproductive. Truth and accuracy are important.
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