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    OMG!PONIES!Lauren Evans
    6/26/16 5:10pm

    I can’t say that I’m surprised. Let’s not forget, this is the country that still refuses to admit that it committed genocide 100 years ago.

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      BaneKitty RisesOMG!PONIES!
      6/26/16 5:29pm

      Having just spent time here and arguing with Turkish friends, this is not exactly something they are taught in school. And when they hear rumblings of it, it is downplayed and slanted in such a way that it was war.

      I don’t believe ignorance is an excuse in this day and age of digital communication but most new generations have *no clue* what actually happened and are fueled on by a very nationalistic government.

      When I explained to my friends and they independently looked it up, they were appalled. I almost broke up with my fiance over him not admitting or realizing what happened. Then, after our talks, he showed me his conversation with an Armenian friend and the first thing his friend said was ‘Thank you so much for asking me. Thank you so much for finally recognizing what happened...’ and they went from there.

      I personally wouldn’t pin this on ‘they know what happened and they refuse!’ so much as ‘public education is failing them in a very important aspect.’

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      Akat101BaneKitty Rises
      6/26/16 5:33pm

      Apparently there was a huge genocide denial ad (something about truth=peace) in Times Square a few months ago. I have no problem believing that many people in Turkey just don't know, especially since censorship can be so strict there.

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    BleedingFromHerWhereverLauren Evans
    6/26/16 4:49pm

    Another reason why the EU is a good thing. Turkey desperately wants to join, but the EU won’t let it until it stops doing things like this. I have a feeling one day events like this won’t happen anymore in Turkey, and it will likely be due to the E.U.

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      BaneKitty RisesBleedingFromHerWherever
      6/26/16 5:01pm

      Or to a younger population not encumbered by the ideas of olds. It’s funny how the difference in addressing how the UK young feel/think about the Bretix being antithetical to the desires of the young population but how this is just Turkey, you know.

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      cinnamonBleedingFromHerWherever
      6/26/16 5:04pm

      Turkey will not join the EU (if it will still exist). Not in this century.

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    thisroughbeastLauren Evans
    6/26/16 4:49pm

    I genuinely don’t know if I would have the courage to march under these conditions. So to my LGBTetc sisters, brothers, and others out there: Thank you for being so brave. Thank you for fighting. I hope you are safe. I hope your countrymen sort their shit out.

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      kingwolfthisroughbeast
      6/26/16 4:56pm

      Well here in America they might get shot with lead bullets.

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      thisroughbeastkingwolf
      6/26/16 6:29pm

      I’m in Canada. Where, tbh it’s not perfect by any stretch, but so far no one has been shot. Fuck’s sake I hope no one else gets shot.

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    hi.Lauren Evans
    6/26/16 5:18pm

    I have to say, as a secular Muslim, I am so so pleased not to see these comments descend into anti-Muslim hysteria. I know that Jezebel commenters tend to be awesomely non-bigoted in that regard, but I see that kind of shit popping up in the most liberal of places (read: Bill Maher). So yea KUDOS ALL AROUND.

    That said, fuck this shit and these extremist assholes. :(

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      foldablehi.
      6/26/16 7:18pm

      It’s hard to exoticize the AKP when their behavior looks so much like what contemporary American Republicans would do if they could.

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      Flying Squidfoldable
      6/26/16 7:34pm

      It’s what Americans were doing all the time 25-30 years ago. I remember kids going to my high school with shirts on that said shit like “Die Faggot” and nobody in the administration cared. I was once arrested when I was in college because I was in the computer lab late and had to use the bathroom and the bathroom was apparently a cruising spot. I was arrested on suspicion of being gay for going to the bathroom at 2 a.m. In a public building with a 24-hour computer lab.

      We’re acting all high and mighty when this was us not that long ago.

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    kingwolfLauren Evans
    6/26/16 4:54pm

    I propose we carpet bomb them with gay porn!

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      ThatFatScatCatkingwolf
      6/26/16 5:08pm

      Never thought “Damn, Squidward’s looking pretty sexy” would ever be something to cross my mind. But, well, here we are.

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      kingwolfThatFatScatCat
      6/26/16 5:33pm

      He was sexy for one episode.

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    StairmasternemLauren Evans
    6/26/16 4:48pm

    Yay asinine fears. Although could this be related to ISIS’ promises this month?

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      Akat101Stairmasternem
      6/26/16 5:07pm

      ISIS making threats is a serious concern, but it’s funny how that seems to work out for conservative elements who were probably happy to have an excuse to shut down the parade.

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      BaneKitty RisesStairmasternem
      6/26/16 5:13pm

      Turkey has been hit what, four times this year? It doesn’t diminish the hits and pain other countries have felt but there has been no outcry and no facebook photo changes with something as awful as the crescent.

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    Akat101Lauren Evans
    6/26/16 5:04pm

    Very troubling what’s going on in Turkey. Recently, border guards killed 8 Syrian refugees (one man, four women, three children), passed measures to strip immunity from leftist/pro-Kurdish MPs while giving retroactive immunity to security forces to protect them from being prosecuted for human rights abuses, and now this. And that isn’t even touching on the crackdown on journalism and destruction of entire cities in the southeast.

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      Flying SquidLauren Evans
      6/26/16 7:40pm

      I originally had this as a response to someone else, but I am going to expand on it here.

      I turn 39 years old tomorrow. I was born and raised in Indiana, but in a liberal college town.

      In my high school, this was in the 1990s, kids could wear shirts that said, “die faggots” on them and not get in any trouble.

      One of our teachers was gay and in a stable and loving relationship. He only let a few people know this because the school would fire him if he were publicly outed.

      When I was in college (same town), still the 1990s, I was working on something in a computer lab in a public campus building at 2 am and went to use the bathroom. I was arrested by campus police essentially on suspicion of being gay because that bathroom was known to be a pickup spot.

      There was a gay bar in town. It was also raided by the cops for nothing regularly. When it wasn’t being raided, it was subject to all sorts of vicious rumors involving underaged boys and AIDS.

      Never mind firing tear gas and rubber bullets at a pride parade, there would have been no pride parade then. Because it wasn’t even worth risking the police would attack that way.

      My point is that yes, America is now much more enlightened. There are pride parades in that town and even in the surrounding, more conservative towns... but I’m talking about things that happened in my lifetime.

      Before you get all high-and-mighty about Turkey, remember, they’re not all that far behind us.

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        DrWhoSoccerStarLauren Evans
        6/26/16 4:51pm

        So the government is fighting violence by attacking the peaceful protestors and not those making threats of violence. There is something very familiar about this.

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