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    Sean BrodyRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 2:58pm

    I enjoyed this movie a lot, but I would definitely say it’s more in the vein of Only God Forgives than it is of Drive.

    I counted 6 walkouts at my screening. Would still recommend it though, if you like looking at beautiful, empty things. It’s certainly not boring.

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      Masshole JamesSean Brody
      6/24/16 3:04pm

      This or Independence Day?

      (Who am I kidding, it’s gonna be Independence Day.)

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      Sean BrodyMasshole James
      6/24/16 3:07pm

      This or Independence Day?

      (Who am I kidding, it’s gonna be Independence Day.)

      I’m seeing Independence Day tonight!

      If you don’t hate Blake Lively, you could also do worse than The Shallows. Solid for what it is.

      Neon Demon is a love/hate type deal.

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    DoobyOneRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 2:57pm

    Jesus, he needs to stop talking. It’s making me retroactively dislike Drive and Valhalla Rising.

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      CharlieKellyKingofTheRatsDoobyOne
      6/24/16 3:04pm

      Lol, it's weird that a guy who keeps so little dialogue in his films that you may think the characters are developmentally disabled, has so much shit to say.

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      TheseIsGucciDoobyOne
      6/24/16 3:09pm

      So you need to personally like an artist to appreciate their art?

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    Masshole JamesRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 3:02pm

    Part of the film is a celebration of narcissism as a virtue...I don’t think there’s any right and wrong...beauty isn’t everything, it’s the only thing...I always wanted to be a 16-year-old girl...

    Poor Nicolas is just trying to live up to your legendary Sean Young interview by upping the crazy.

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      Quasar FunkMasshole James
      6/24/16 3:11pm

      Oh man, that was the only part where I agreed with him.

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      Masshole JamesQuasar Funk
      6/24/16 3:12pm

      Hey, if you wanna be a 16 year old girl, that’s between you and your God. No judgement!

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    fudgesicleuighyrRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 2:58pm

    You should have asked him to apologize for Only God Forgives. That was so bad, it made me reevaluate his entire catalogue.

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      TheseIsGuccifudgesicleuighyr
      6/24/16 3:08pm

      Have you seen anything besides Drive? Most of his movies are definitely not easy watches. This one is way more in the vein of OGF so if you hated that, stay away from this.

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      fudgesicleuighyrTheseIsGucci
      6/24/16 3:15pm

      I saw that Valhalla Rising, which was incredibly derivative of Aguirre Wrath of God and Apocalypse Now.

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    Quasar FunkRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 2:59pm

    Upon meeting Nicolas Winding Refn in the NOMO SOHO suite

    Ah. I’m not a New Yorker and didn’t know what this was referencing, but I assumed it was in Brooklyn.

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      Label other endQuasar Funk
      6/24/16 3:02pm

      No it's not not at all...

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      Quasar FunkLabel other end
      6/24/16 3:05pm

      What’s not what?

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    elvisizerRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 3:09pm

    Gotta disagree with Refn on the narcissism . . .I really don’t think those impulses are useful or good in any way.

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      ARP2elvisizer
      6/24/16 3:17pm

      Honestly, i don’t think he’s actually describing narcissism in the clinical, Trump-ian sense. The fact that he has self-doubt, is aware that his movies were disliked, etc. indicates that.

      Many great minds- Picasso, Frank Lloyd Wright, etc. were fairly egotistical, perhaps even borderline narcissists. I’m not suggesting that he’s a member of that kind of pantheon, but there does seem to be a strong correlation.

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      elvisizerARP2
      6/24/16 4:02pm

      He wasn’t talking about himself as being an example of the ‘good narcissism’, though- he used younger people and his kids as examples, so his own self doubt doesn’t seem to be a part of what he’s talking about.

      Also, just because some artists display narcissistic tendencies, there’s no reason to link their abilities to those tendencies. Why couldn’t Picasso have been an EVEN GREATER artist if he wasn’t narcissistic? Picasso would be an example of the complacency effect the writer mentioned, imho.

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    GeorgeGeoffersonLivesRich Juzwiak
    6/24/16 7:52pm

    Neon Demon Director Nicolas Winding Refn Is a “Warrior” and a “Rock Star” Who Believes That Narcissism Is Good

    GIF
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      CryptidRich Juzwiak
      6/24/16 4:06pm

      I don’t know what to do with his movies. In retrospect, Drive seems to exist at the unlikely midpoint between The Driver and Kung Fury. Its style is too knowing for it to work as a terse thriller in the vein of Walter Hill, but it’s pretty clearly not meant to be a parody or camp object either.

      I haven’t seen the new one yet, but the fact that it received an uncharacteristically scorching pan from the noted Mario Bava enthusiast Glenn Kenny is not exactly auspicious.

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        TheDamnPaterfamiliasRich Juzwiak
        6/27/16 4:38pm

        I really love his films for the artist he’s trying desperately to be. He always makes me think more than twice about the themes that interest him, and I never feel manipulated. Similarly, his take on narcissism in this interview had a similar effect. The pronounced presence of it in our current culture tastes vile and septic thanks to Trump. But his interpretation of it as a means of self-acceptance denied to prior generations is thought-provoking and even kind of sweet.

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          thuggyBearRich Juzwiak
          6/25/16 12:07pm

          Can someone explain to me why people keep pretending that “Drive” wasn’t dull hodgepodge of mainstream action tropes, 2D characters, and the least convincing romance ever put to film?

          Also, Ryan Gosling... come on. I would say he was there world’s most overrated actor, but we still have ambulatory 2X4 Christian Bale scowling at cameras.

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