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jeanneeeRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 10:57pm
Gah. I hope she’s all right and it was just a one-off bad reaction to the combo of wine and pills. How scary for the kid too, damn.
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  Ma Vaffanculojeanneee
  6/20/16 11:02pm
  Do people make stuff up like that just because of pills and alcohol, I wonder? Or was she freed from whatever inhibitions kept her from disclosing the abuse? Either way, how awful for it all to happen so publicly.
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  jeanneeeMa Vaffanculo
  6/20/16 11:09pm
  No idea, maybe it’s stuff that’s really happening to her or maybe she dissociated or something. I don’t know what she took but I had a mild delusional freakout once after 2 glasses of Pinot Noir and an Ambien. Fortunately for me I was in my apartment with my then-roommate at the time, and not on an airplane. If she does need help, this incident will hopefully be the catalyst for her to get it.
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WhiskeyprayerRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 10:57pm
Kudos to the nurses who stepped up to care for a stranger to keep everything calm.
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  chritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfishWhiskeyprayer
  6/20/16 11:23pm
  Everyday heroes.
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  EmForsterchritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfish
  6/20/16 11:34pm
  I know: I LOVE NURSES. My sister is a nurse and she is fucking awesome.
  
  Once we were in a coffee shop and had just sat down with our lattes. All of a sudden a woman started freaking out and crying and raging. Being the chicken shit I am, I said, “Jesus, quick—let’s go.”
  
  My sister slowly turned to the scene and calmly got up and walked over to the woman. She got her to sit down and then slowly squatted down lower than the woman and took her hands in her hands and started talking to her in a calm, low voice to get her to calm down. She found out who to call, what her medications were, etc., etc. She told the barrista who to call and what to do (get her a water, etc.). I was SO FUCKING PROUD (and ashamed of myself for wanting to escape before anything uncomfortable happened).
  
  And, ironically enough, my sis is known as the cold, hard bitch of the family. She is the boss.
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CineCraftRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 11:20pm
What about “don’t consume prescription meds with alcohol” do some people find so difficult to understand?
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  EmForsterCineCraft
  6/20/16 11:46pm
  It must be great to be so perfect.
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  foolyooCineCraft
  6/21/16 12:14am
  Same thing that “don’t feed the wildlife” and “no swimming” signs don’t say, “yeah this may seem really fun but you could die.”
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deerlady83Rachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 11:14pm
I hope her son is okay and she gets whatever help she needs. I hope it was just a bad reaction to whatever she was taking.
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  I'll Tell Me Madeerlady83
  6/20/16 11:52pm
  I recall reading a blind item that the commenters were certain was her, having a similar freak-out in L.A. when her son was a baby. Poor kid might be one of the many growing up with an emotionally-ill parent. I mean, she's been rumoured to have been dating David Foster, who seems like an all-around Douche on the best of days. :(
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  Gin In My TeacupI'll Tell Me Ma
  6/21/16 3:52am
  Noooo not David Foster wtf!
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Tupiniquim - white cat with hands is all of usRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 10:58pm
Holy shit, I hope she's okay and that whatever allegations she made get to be investigated instead of dismissed. My heart broke to think of her 4 year-old seeing his mom taken on a stretcher, no kid needs to see that.
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  Nolamama69Tupiniquim - white cat with hands is all of us
  6/21/16 12:14am
  I know. That poor baby. 4 is itty bitty so I'm sure he was scared to death.
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  I made a pigeonratTupiniquim - white cat with hands is all of us
  6/21/16 2:01am
  I hope the police take her more seriously than the jezebel commentariat. They seem to have all decided that 1. The prescription medication was ambien 2. She's not being abused, she just said those things because of ambien
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GOT NO DINGITYRachel Vorona Cote
6/21/16 12:00am
This could be incredibly shallow and impertinent of me, but I’ll never forget a Daily Mail story titled “Shockingly thin Selma Blair displays her skeletal figure as she takes son to the park.” Her “skeletal frame” was the tabloid story, but I was really alarmed by the outfit she wore, in the context she wore it, in concert with her physical appearance. Basically a chunky cardigan with nothing underneath, the kind of socially inappropriate outfit that someone incompetent (alcohol, drugs, mental illness) would pick out for herself. If you’re curious, check it out; I don’t believe I’m out-of-line for saying those photos raised some very upsetting alarm bells.

I’m not trying to shame Selma for an outfit she wore in 2012. But ever since those photos (which actually worried me, as someone who likes her) I’ve projected some vague concern onto her...sad that four years later she’s in this situation. No clue what’s going on behind closed doors but I hope she gets the help she needs.
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  agent of chaosGOT NO DINGITY
  6/21/16 1:40am
  Damn, those photographs are so unsettling.
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  sockerkakaGOT NO DINGITY
  6/21/16 7:23am
  Yes. I try not to be a concern troll, because it’s useless and judgmental. But I will say this much - I saw those pictures four years ago and I remember them still. Even though a fuckload of paparazzi pictures have entered my brain since then.
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theresthisRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 11:17pm
The title made it sound like she was causing trouble on the flight. Instead it seems like something terrible happened to her.
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  Tirtheresthis
  6/20/16 11:31pm
  Yes, this makes me think she need help. I hope people won't just ignore it as Ambien side effects as this lovely woman might need real help.
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  I made a pigeonrattheresthis
  6/21/16 1:52am
  Yes, from the headline I thought she was being a diva, but this sounds terrifying! I hope this is investigated, people seem very eager to dismiss what she said as something she just hallucinated
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UpsAndDownsEvenForBigCatsRachel Vorona Cote
6/21/16 12:48am
This hits a little close to home right now. A few days ago I was so severely dehydrated from a virus that I couldn’t stop breathing rapidly and had extremely low blood pressure so that I was in and out of awareness and would start to pass out every time I tried to stand up. My poor dad had to call 911. In one of my more aware moments, I told my kids to go to a bedroom, shut the door, and play video games, thankfully. But neighbors and all of the people passing through our busy intersection saw me carried on a stretcher into an ambulance. I can only imagine what kind of wacky stories they may have imagined in their heads. I worry that for some people, even if I tell them the fairly mundane reason for my medical emergency, they will still retain some level of suspicion about the possibility of some kind of more dramatic story.

A dad in my old neighborhood was taken away in an ambulance one night, and even though the couple explained that he had a fall or something, everybody was talking about whether it might have been alcohol related. To be fair, the man had a massive alcohol problem, as in reeked of it much of the time. But it still felt to me almost like people had a strong desire to believe their own version. Does it make people feel better about themselves to entertain these kinds of possibilities? Are we just bored?

Anyway, poor Selma. In addition to whatever problems she might actually be having, she is also going to be subjected to all kinds of speculation, because we just can’t help it. And even if it was a fairly random and uncharacteristic event, a certain percentage of people are going to have a hard time letting go of whatever more exciting explanations they imagined.
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  PuddingandthemissusUpsAndDownsEvenForBigCats
  6/21/16 12:51am
  I had a severe virus a few months ago that came with paranoid delusions. It was horrible. There are all sorts of things that cause intense reactions
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  GOT NO DINGITYUpsAndDownsEvenForBigCats
  6/21/16 2:34am
  I’m surprised everyone seems so invested in the everything-is-fine theory. If you compare the incidence of one-off bizarre hallucinogenic outbursts to the incidences of addiction, mental illness, spousal abuse, and any other more statistically probable triggering causes, I’m certain these everything-is-fine theories don’t hold up so likely.
  
  Take this “Ambien” theory—10 million Americans take sleeping pills. A fraction of those Americans take Ambien. A tiny sliver of Ambien users experience side effects in broad daylight that resemble a psychotic episode.
  
  I know it’s important to give the benefit of the doubt. But I’m actually disappointed in the number of people who:
  
  A) Are interpreting events to call this a big accident/misunderstanding.
  
  B) Aren’t giving her words in the moment (about abuse, etc.) any significant pause or attention.
  
  C) Are treating concerns about addiction/mental illness/abuse as if they somehow impugn her character—So what if she needs help? Perhaps she needs help!
  
  D) Seem unwilling to believe that something deeper is afoot here.
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GELLA - LLAPRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 11:07pm
I hope she is going to be ok. Thank you nurses to helping her out
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eugene levy's eyebrowsRachel Vorona Cote
6/20/16 11:01pm
Ugh. That sounds traumatic for the kiddo. I hope she’s OK and gets help if she needs it.
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