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    Space_RockerEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:32pm

    “it defies logic and common sense that a woman would seek to re-connect and get back into bed with a man who she says forced her to have unwanted sex just hours earlier.”

    Thank you for pointing out the inaccuracy here, but even if that weren’t the case, fuck this guy... because victims of assault never wrestle with confusion, trauma or grappling with rationalizing whether or not they were victimized, especially since over 90% of the time, the assault is committed by someone they know. Cool story, bro!

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      k-crippenSpace_Rocker
      6/09/16 2:41pm

      Seriously. It’s actually extremely common in relationships where a person knows their abuser. Its called normalizing, its been studied over and over again, its instinctual and normal reaction, and when are we going to accept this as a fact?

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      LibrarySchoolDropoutk-crippen
      6/09/16 2:53pm

      This seems like a pretty obvious attempt to regain control on the situation. I’m not sure why people are always so shocked to find out it’s a common behavior.

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    SipowitzEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:25pm

    Poor guy. He had it all, and then lost a very tiny bit of it. Could you imagine something so traumatic happening to you?

    Edited to add in case I wasn’t being clear: /s -___-

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      Icecold DavisSipowitz
      6/09/16 2:27pm

      We should probably all write nice character witness letters for that horribly wronged boy.

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      TheRevanchistSipowitz
      6/09/16 2:31pm

      I remember when that cop pulled me over just because I was driving along at 55. Can you believe that? Jeez. Damn school zones shouldn’t be allowed on residential streets.

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    ncoliphantEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:31pm

    It’s almost as if schools shouldn’t play kangaroo court when it comes to sexual assault cases.

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      Slow Mutantncoliphant
      6/09/16 2:59pm

      Agreed. The conversation shouldn’t be “how can school’s prevent this?” it should be “how can the legal system better serve victims of sexual abuse so scumbags like this are in jail where they belong?” By focusing on what the university should do rather than what the New Haven PD should do, we are only making the problem worse.

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      ncoliphantSlow Mutant
      6/09/16 3:24pm

      Right. And I’m sure accommodations could be made so that the accuser and accused wouldn’t be in the same classes/buildings/parts of campus in the period between accusation and trial. I have no idea if this suit has any merit, but the idea that a school with a shaky history of punishing sexual offenders would over correct for PR purposes is certainly plausible.

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    Rikki-Tikki-DeadlyEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:25pm

    Regardless of the merits, this is REALLY bad timing, dude. Your name is going to be handcuffed to BROCK TURNER UNREPENTANT STANFORD RAPIST forever.

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      Mike BowersRikki-Tikki-Deadly
      6/09/16 2:37pm

      I appreciate how they are quick to point out that this fine young man didn’t rape someone prior to this. He just reached down the front of a woman’s shirt and stuffed something in there. A fine young man indeed!

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      HerRoyalRednessRikki-Tikki-Deadly
      6/09/16 3:39pm

      I mean...

      GIF
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    Mister GristleEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:27pm

    [reads complaint]

    [laughs]

    - Capulets

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      HerRoyalRednessMister Gristle
      6/09/16 3:40pm

      Take your puns back to Deadspin where they belong!

      /Seething because I love puns but I can’t come up with any

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      The Cache Is ClearMister Gristle
      6/09/16 4:53pm

      This was the only comment worth reading!

      -Deadspin readers

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    DB12Ellie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:23pm

    A University's student conduct process is almost entirely legally protected, especially for private schools. Only way a judge would step in is if there's a massive miscarriage of justice or the school's policies weren't applied, which is certainly not the case here.

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      Mike BowersDB12
      6/09/16 2:33pm

      It appears one of his complaints is that they didn’t follow procedure, though based on what their statement describes, I don’t even see that. It seems the biggest issues he raises are with the Title IX coordinator allegedly filing the complaint (which their policies state s/he has the ability to do), and with the assertion that similar cases have resulted in suspension or probation. But since they’ve also had cases where students have been expelled, it could easily be explained expulsion fell within the typical range for sexual misconduct cases.

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      bassguitarheroDB12
      6/09/16 2:37pm

      Unless of course the judge happens to be a Yale grad who played for one of their teams

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    Space_RockerEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 2:28pm

    On May 23, 2016, Jack Montague would have graduated from Yale University with a degree in American Studies and started his post-college life with excitement, promise, and vigor. Instead, he has filed a civil suit in the United States District Court for the District of Connecticut for wrongfully expelling him just three months shy of his graduation date for alleged “sexual misconduct.” did this to himself because he committed a sexual crime.

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      HarrySpace_Rocker
      6/09/16 2:39pm

      On May 23, 2016, Jack Montague would have graduated from Yale University with a degree in American Studies and started his post-college life with excitement, promise, and vigor no job opportunities because that’s not a real degree. Instead, he has filed a civil suit in the United States District Court for the District of Connecticut for wrongfully expelling him just three months shy of his graduation date for alleged “sexual misconduct.” did this to himself because he committed a sexual crime.

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    Unabashed AppliantologistEllie Shechet
    6/09/16 3:02pm

    Is it bad that American Studies sounds like a euphemism for participating in rape culture and binge drinking to me? I’m surprised he isn’t arguing that the encounter and alleged ensuing assualt/rape weren’t for research purposes.

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      bitpushrEllie Shechet
      6/09/16 4:27pm

      What the fuck is “nonconsensual sex”? I’m pretty sure that’s a misspelling of “rape”.

      What next, assault is now “nonconsensual boxing”? Grand theft auto is “nonconsensual car rental”? Murder is “nonconsensual suicide”?

      Jack Montague, I hope you get 20 years in the electric chair.

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        Calls From the Publicbitpushr
        6/09/16 4:42pm

        I feel a little badly about how hard this is making me laugh. “Nonconsensual car rental”, perfect!

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      Sean BrodyEllie Shechet
      6/09/16 2:38pm

      The complaint claims that Jane Roe did not want to file a formal complaint against Montague, but that the University’s Title IX coordinator “falsely informed” her that Montague had already been the subject of a previous sexual assault complaint

      A lot of Sturm und Drang in that lawsuit, but there’s gotta be a way to verify this part.
      Either there was a previous complaint or there wasn’t.
      Lying to a sexual assault victim seems off, no matter what your motive.

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        CogentCommentSean Brody
        6/09/16 3:59pm

        Ellie doesn’t mention that the two named defendants are the Title IX coordinators involved, Angela Gleason and Jason Killheffer. That’s a bit unusual from a procedural front; it’s far more common to have Does 1-20 prior to discovery.

        In a quick read of the complaint, Gleason’s conduct is going to raise some eyebrows. Even if large parts of the statement of facts are garbage, at bare minimum she ignored what the victim wanted and was at absolute best very close to dishonest about the process.

        That’s not how you treat a sexual assault victim.

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        Sean BrodyCogentComment
        6/09/16 4:15pm

        In a quick read of the complaint, Gleason’s conduct is going to raise some eyebrows. Even if large parts of the statement of facts are garbage, at bare minimum she ignored what the victim wanted and was at absolute best very close to dishonest about the process.

        That’s not how you treat a sexual assault victim.

        If the victim was deliberately lied to with a view to altering her behaviour, the person should be sacked. Or at least kept out of contact with cases such as this.

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