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SarsAttacksAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:48pm
Cool, so the security guard assaulted himself, the hotel room trashed itself, Winona Ryder misremembered things to Natalie Portman, Kate Moss ripped up photos of herself in a fit of jealousy, all those beers drank themselves and then went on television and drunkenly stumbled through that speech, the car drove itself during a police chase, what am I missing?

When will all these things stop happening to Johnny Depp, I ask ye? It’s like the world is conspiring to make him look a big fat baby with control issues and a terrible temper, but that can’t possibly be true because someone is vouching for him on the Twitter and the Gram what instans.
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  potterpoetSarsAttacks
  5/30/16 9:58pm
  what am I missing?
  
  The truth? Facts?
  
  Johnny is pretty shitty person. But you really should stop lying to try to make him seem worse. The facts are enough for him to be shitty. You don’t have to lie about Winona Ryder or Kate Moss, ffs. Lying doesn’t help.
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  FridayFridaySarsAttacks
  5/30/16 10:00pm
  Yup. A friend of mine met him because her mother was the president of his oldest fan club, back in the day. He flew their whole family out to one of the Pirates sets and gave them all generous gifts, and was very kind. Another friend of mine is related to the side of Depp’s family that he apparently never talks to, and she has stories of him being a violent drunken jerk. A person can be both.
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Stella Mudd's Divorce AttorneyAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:43pm
That young lady is a tearing beauty.

Also, my Dad was very gentle and loving with me. He used to beat the shit out of my Mother though, but only when he was drunk.
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  I'm Fart and I'm SmunnyStella Mudd's Divorce Attorney
  5/30/16 9:51pm
  I was just talking to my mom about this today. My father was never physically abusive towards me, but I do remember times where he was physically abusive towards my brother. He was emotionally abusive to both my brother and me, and I later learned how horrible he was to my mother when they were married. Luckily she divorced him when I was a baby.
  
  And the thing is, he was super charming with everyone else. He fooled basically everyone, even the most perceptive and intelligent people in my family. I don't think people realize that how someone behaves around friends and family doesn't always indicate how they behave with their spouse.
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  JiminyCricketI'm Fart and I'm Smunny
  5/30/16 9:56pm
  I have a friend who just had a baby with a guy who clearly has abusive tendencies. And it’s a total disconnect with the guy I’ve met in the past, who is charming and funny and self-deprecating. But apparently when they are alone together he is nasty, dismissive, verbally abusive, and has given the impression that he could assault her one day.
  
  So I can see how people struggle to make the connection, and I’m not even saying that Depp is guilty or innocent or anything in between. But it’s rather amazing that people will defend him (or support her allegations) blindly as if they were a fly on the wall for the entire Depp/Heard relationship.
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BrightEyesAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 10:14pm
Somebody else here said it best: We need to put aside our manic pixie dream boy for a second and look at this person as a man. A man who has a long and well documented history of drug abuse, alcohol abuse and physical abuse. He is perhaps one of the very few in Hollywood that so many women are willing to give a “pass” to. Anybody who was an adult in the late 80's/early-mid 90's remembers the stuff this guy did. He was front and center in getting high and acting like a piece of shit. His shutting his club, The Viper Room, after his friend, River Phoenix, died in it was nothing more than damage control...although he couched it as respect for a lost friend. He was well known for supplying the drugs in his club. He had countless arrests for assault. He was the Sean Penn of the early 90's.

He has carefully cultivated a persona, complete with an accent and has stuck by it. A dude from Kentucky pulled a Madonna to make himself more interesting. He is still a guy from Kentucky, just with a hell of a lot more money and fame.

I have no idea about the latest story, just retelling his history for those too young to know who this guy really is.
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  Fancia PantalonesBrightEyes
  5/30/16 10:33pm
  So what you’re saying here is that all guys from Kentucky are scumbags? That we should be waiting for George Clooney to beat his wife and sell drugs?
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  theresthisBrightEyes
  5/30/16 10:38pm
  Justin Bieber is an angel in comparison to Depp (so far) but everyone hates Bieber for his bad behavior but gives a pass to Depp. I’m honestly surprised at how much support he’s getting because I would have assumed Depp was one of those messy celebrities that people would automatically dislike.
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BorealisAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:40pm
I can’t hate her for defending her dad/ supporting him assuming she’s never witnessed or experienced any kind of violence from him. She clearly loves him. It’s also why she’s neither the judge nor jury.
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  cyncerityBorealis
  5/30/16 9:45pm
  I’m also wondering how much she’s dealing with because of this, especially on social media. This is probably a shitty time for everyone involved.
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  parangaricutirimicuaroBorealis
  5/30/16 9:49pm
  And she’s not even 18. Of course she’s going to defend her dad and of course she won’t think of the plight of women and systematic violence, when she’s just a naïve privileged teenager. It’s kind of nice that she’s defending her dad, actually. The problem are the grown up women and men who should know better but still decide to defend some famous millionaire who probably doesn’t even know them over an abused woman because “bitches be lying”.
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GregSamsaAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:51pm
How dare she? I mean, seriously.

We all have close, personal knowledge about this. We know he is guilty. There is no reason to take her claims into account when we have other women claiming he’s a wife-beater.
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  Ali TGregSamsa
  5/30/16 10:07pm
  I’m not interested in taking anyone’s side here, but what “close, personal knowledge” do we all have about this. As hear as I can tell, the only people who would have “close, personal knowledge” would be the Johnny and Amber.
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  GregSamsaAli T
  5/30/16 10:11pm
  That’s kind of my point. We don’t know. And we have no knowledge. This post kind of assumes we should think Lily doesn’t know as much as we do.
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albatross_YAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:55pm
Before I had enough life experience to accept that my dad was a piece of shit, I’d have defended him to the ends of the earth, and believed every word I said, since that’s what you are supposed to do with family; that’s your obligation.

I’m not saying Lily-Rose is naive, or lying — just that her standing up for her dad to the world doesn’t really have any objective weight.
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  Starlingalbatross_Y
  5/30/16 10:38pm
  Yeah. It can be hard - world-shattering, even - to learn that someone you know and love in this particular way is a monster. I was shattered to learn that one of my grandfathers was one. My initial instinct was to defend him, just as Lily-Rose is doing here. That changed quickly, though. I have only empathy for her, and I hope she also has a support structure and a good therapist.
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  Inquartataalbatross_Y
  5/30/16 11:21pm
  I know my dad was an abusive asshole, but I still have the odd times when I have to fight the urge to defend him, or to make the times when he wasn’t a shithead more prevalent than they really were. A parent/child bond is a thing that’s hard to break even when the parent is abusive, and even when the child is an adult and can rationally and logically know that the abusive parent is/was fucked up, but there’s that irrational part that objects to acknowledging it and insists on reminding you of that bond.
  
  My mother was abusive and neglectful, but it was different with her because it was wildly apparent that she gave zero fucks about me or my sister. She truly never formed that bond and frankly never should’ve had children. I’ve never felt the urge to defend her nor has my sister, so when she took off, my sister and I were very much “bye, Felicia” about it. But it took years for us to acknowledge and accept that our dad was a lost cause, too, because there was a bond there, however fucked up everything was.
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eugene levy's eyebrowsAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:46pm
I have a wonderful dad who has always been a loving and gentle soul. I know he’s human and has faults, but if he was accused of something awful, heinous, and seemingly out of character for our life/relationship, I would be awfully defensive of him too. :( I feel for her.
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  Cocopop!eugene levy's eyebrows
  5/30/16 10:07pm
  My father made some very serious mistakes in early adulthood, which had far-reaching negative consequences. I didn’t learn about any of it until I was a teen, and it took me a long time, I’m talking 25-30 years, to see any side of the story but his side, which was that it was everyone else’s fault. We’d all like to think that we would see the whole picture right away, but usually people don’t. Unfortunately, it isn’t that simple.
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  Marx and Sparkseugene levy's eyebrows
  5/30/16 11:12pm
  My rapist is a “feminist” who goes to marches against violence against women. I promise you his sisters would say “But my brother would never hurt a woman. He’s a feminist!” Which is why I don’t care what friends/acquaintances/family/etc say when someone is accused of abuse.
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randilynisFINDILYNAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 11:43pm
It’s entirely possible that Amber brought out the worst in him. It may be true that she said cruel taunting things to him (called him a fat faced, uncool loser or so I’ve read) She could be a horrible human being who was cheating on him Cara D and every woman in her circle of friends. She might have married him for money or fame or her shot at stardom. Still doesn’t give him THE RIGHT TO GET VIOLENT.

It’s possible he’s having a break down, from a substance abuse problem or the death of his mom or just plain old fear of getting old and irrelevant. Still doesn’t give him the RIGHT TO GET VIOLENT.

Being an amazing dad has never precluded being an abuser. I am sure his daughter never did see him act violently.

I feel badly for his daughter. This has to be devastating to her. But I do feel a responsible parent, Vanessa in particular should have counseled her to be there for her dad, not be there in the social media for her dad. Her private belief in him should be enough. And if she was advised to do this by PR people, well bless their venal little hearts.

This is a matter for the courts and the adults to handle. Just because she’s been granted a tremendous amount of freedom doesn’t mean she isn’t still a child.
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  whyorwhynotrandilynisFINDILYN
  5/31/16 1:28am
  I’m sure they both said cruel and taunting things to each other. Couples are never nice to each other when they fight and saying mean things in anger doesn’t make someone a terrible person. Depp seems to have engaged in a lot of fighting in all of his relationships.
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  BlondeGoddessrandilynisFINDILYN
  5/31/16 5:09am
  Didn’t Vanessa also come out with a letter, saying he was never violent to her and attesting to his good character? Or is that one a fake?
  
  I agree with you - it’s entirely possible that he was never abusive to other women in his life, yet was to Amber. Maybe they brought out the worst in each other, who knows. But it’s ridiculous that everybody is judging or claiming to know the truth based on years old gossip on Perez Hilton. We don’t know the inside story. I’m inclined to believe the victim, but really, it’s a matter for the courts.
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SarsAttacksAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 9:52pm
He said that when he used to get in fights, he was “a dirty fighter. Oh, yeah. The dirtiest there ever was. Stop at nothing. It doesn’t matter. Balls, sucker punch, bite the ear, pull the ear, gouge an eye out. I have done damage, and damage has been done to me. I’ve been hit with everything in the world: ashtrays, bottles, the worst being a pointy-toed Tony Lama boot to the face.” He went on: “I still have a hellish temper. I mean, it’s diminished a little, but rage is still never very far away.” He’s thinking about the paparazzi and what he might do to them if they ever step into what he calls “a sacred kind of circle,” the one that surrounds him when he’s with his family. “Once again, there’s nothing I would stop at. It’s a hideous place to go but sometimes a necessary place. Yeah, yeah, shit — biting their noses off, chewing it in front of them would be the least of their problems. Unfortunately. But, fuck ‘em.”

Rolling Stone, 2005

Also:

He said that he misses eating at Arby’s.
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  IdontwanttothinkofoneSarsAttacks
  5/30/16 10:07pm
  He said that he misses eating at Arby’s.
  
  If that isn't proof he's a monster, I don't know what is.
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  SarsAttacksIdontwanttothinkofone
  5/30/16 10:15pm
  Unforgivable and just fucking gross, dude.
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IveeAimée Lutkin
5/30/16 10:10pm
I’m a little confused as to the timeline here. Amber refused to file a police report on the night of the domestic violence call. Police reported no evidence of domestic violence. The day after the police call, she’s photographed with friends, smiling, and with her hair hiding the right part of her face and eye. A day or so later, she’s got an I-Phone-shaped bruise on her eye. A day or so after that, she’s photographed laughing her ass off with a girlfriend as she leaves her lawyer’s office. There is no evidence of bruising. Now I had leg surgery a month ago, which left my leg weak, and just after the splint came off, the leg went out from under me and I did a header into the dishwasher (don’t ask), banging the hell out of my jaw. Went to dinner the following night; there was only swelling (not very noticeable) and no bruise. Two days later, a definite bruise. It lasted for a week, getting darker and larger by the day. Makeup didn’t hide it. These are the little things that I just don’t get about her accusations, though I am loathe to discount them and am not doing so. The whole thing just lacks...consistency.
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  CrazypantsIvee
  5/30/16 11:04pm
  Everyone bruises differently and heals at different rates due to the texture of our skin. Also it's been a week now and a surgery bruise is different from a facial abrasion. I also don’t know how much of a spin we are seeing from the Depp side to show these images etc. we honestly don't know how much is being airbrushed by the media.
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  IveeCrazypants
  5/30/16 11:47pm
  You’d think that the tabloids would want to highlight the bruise though. But just a day or two later, it isn’t there. Maybe she doesn’t bruise long because she’s young, ridiculously beautiful, and heals quickly? Still, there’s something about this I don’t buy 100%,
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