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    KarlMarxButtoxHudson Hongo
    5/22/16 8:57pm

    Congratulations to President Bush for a job well done.

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      Netflix and ShillKarlMarxButtox
      5/22/16 9:05pm

      Did you see the most recent Frontline? It traced the roots of ISIS to the disbanding of the Iraqi army and Ba’ath party.

      I remember thinking that was stupid at the time, but I never imagined something like ISIS.

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      Articles_Of_ConfuserationNetflix and Shill
      5/22/16 9:07pm

      Something more like Sinn Fein?

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    ArkHudson Hongo
    5/22/16 8:56pm

    I would not want to be in Fallujah right now. We know ISIS doesn’t give a shit about civilian casualties, and I don’t expect the predominately Shia Iraqi Army to shed many tears over dead Sunni civilians.

    If they fight anything like the insurgents who dug into that place in 2004, it is not going to be fun for anybody.

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      suppiluliumasArk
      5/22/16 9:12pm

      Shia militias are definitely going to have a field day slaughtering civilians. Not that that’s anything new.

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      Arksuppiluliumas
      5/22/16 9:22pm

      I firmly believe the US has no business in Iraq, but...the unfortunate truth is that there will be a price to be paid for our new “make Iraqis solve their own problems” policy. That price will not be paid by Americans.

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    BleedingFromHerWhereverHudson Hongo
    5/22/16 9:13pm

    Looking at the three candidates’ positions on this, it’s safe to say it’s going to get more fucked.

    Clinton: “Continue Obama’s policy but with 1,000,000 more bombs”.

    Sanders: “I’ll do what no one else can and get Iran and Saudi Arabia to send in ground troops because if there’s anyone that two rival Mid-East Arab nations are going to listen to, it’s the Socialist Jew from the US”.

    Trump: “I’m so fucking rich”.

    *Edit- “1,00,000" was changed to “1,000,000", but you get the idea.

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      HavokBlueBleedingFromHerWherever
      5/22/16 9:27pm

      This isn’t a gross over-simplification that mis-represents even Donald Trump’s foreign policy stance or anything.

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      NaatBleedingFromHerWherever
      5/22/16 9:53pm

      The House of Saud and the clerics of Iran will never settle their differences over a negotiation table. Proxy Wars and conflicts for the foreseeable future. The big question is weather the Saudis or the clerics will lose power first. But I don’t think civilian/lay governments of Iran would be any more likely to sit down across a table from the Saudis. And vice versa.

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    TheMilkyOneHudson Hongo
    5/22/16 9:29pm

    Question: why do you guys use ISIS instead of ISIL? I recently read that the AP uses ISIL because that is more of a better translation to what they call themselves.

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      suppiluliumasTheMilkyOne
      5/22/16 9:52pm

      I’ve always preferred ISIS to ISIL because it reflected where they actually were when they added al-Sham to their name. They were ISI, the Islamic State of Iraq, before that. They changed it after successes in Syria, but they’ve had no success anywhere else in the Levant, so it seems better to limit the name to Syria rather than the whole region (al-Sham is a term for both Syria specifically and the Levant in general; it can also be used even more specifically to refer to Damascus). Of course, they call themselves simply IS these days anyway.

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      MisterPigginsTheMilkyOne
      5/22/16 10:25pm

      Call them Daesh

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    suppiluliumasHudson Hongo
    5/22/16 9:08pm

    Daesh released an audio message yesterday by their spokesman Al-Adnani that acknowledges the possibility that they might be looking at major losses, thanks to operations like this one and the current push to take Raqqa from them (they’re also now allowing Raqqa residents to move outside of the city itself, but not outside of the province). It’s kind of funny, actually, as he plays down the importance of holding land and claims that losing the cities they currently control won’t hurt them—apparently their little caliphate doesn’t actually need land. Then he whines about Jews and exhorts Daesh supporters to mount terrorist attacks in the West for Ramadan, blah blah blah. So they know they’re losing shit, but are trying to spin it as no big deal because Daesh is suddenly “an idea” rather than, you know, a self-declared caliphate.

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      GeorgeGeoffersonLivessuppiluliumas
      5/22/16 10:28pm

      So, they’re going all Baghdad Bob on us, huh? lol

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      TRUMP DELENDUS EST (fka Chatham Harrison)suppiluliumas
      5/22/16 10:57pm

      I won’t pretend you don’t have your loyalties, but damn if you aren’t one of the few people on this site who has half a clue about ISIS and Syria. Thanks, as always, for posting.

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    dm0niesHudson Hongo
    5/22/16 9:03pm
    Those who cannot leave were asked to fly white flags over their homes.

    I expect every standing structure in the city to be covered in a sea of white.

    Frankly this is going to be an utter shitstorm of a slaughter, BBC reports that most of the 60-90,000 civilians in the city are local families of ISIS fighters who have nowhere else to go and thus many will fight to the death.

    That after two years of ISIS occupation (one of those years being cut off from the rest of the country) and they are still fighting for the Caliphate speaks volumes of their hatred of the Shia led government we are supporting and probably of the retribution that awaits them from the Shia militias that make up much of the Iraqi fighting manpower.

    There will be no happy ending to this.

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      levarienHudson Hongo
      5/22/16 9:31pm

      “Today, we will tear down the black flags of these despicable strangers who abducted this dear city.”

      Is this line from the next Pirates of the Carribean movie?

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        Jane, you ignorant slut.Hudson Hongo
        5/22/16 9:06pm

        I’m surprised there’s anything left of that city to control.

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          JFCSavesAtFirstNationalHudson Hongo
          5/22/16 9:47pm

          Which side is god on again? I keep forgetting if god’s an imperialist sonofabitch these days or not.

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            TzaJFCSavesAtFirstNational
            5/22/16 10:14pm

            God has spent many hours a day bashing his head against a wall over this shit. Even an almighty can’t fix this mess without a lot more mess...

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            JFCSavesAtFirstNationalTza
            5/23/16 1:14am

            So god’s just a useless idiot. Glad we got that settled.

            At any rate it’s a good thing He’s really up there, else we’d have to invent Him..

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          GeorgeGeoffersonLivesHudson Hongo
          5/22/16 10:12pm

          “Today, we will tear down the black flags of these despicable strangers who abducted this dear city,” said al-Abadi. “The time has come to liberate Fallujah and the victory will be ours.”

          GIF

          Fallujah has been a problem for the coalition and Iraqi forces since the invasion. The First Battle of Fallujah happened almost exactly 12 years ago.

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