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    XrdsAlumHamilton Nolan
    5/19/16 11:04am

    No, Hamilton, not good. What with urban real estate markets being the way they are (rigged in favor of the wealthy), the landlords and developers aren’t going to lower their prices. Nor is public transit going to be built out to the exurbs to relieve commute times.

    What you’ll have instead are cities being the domain of the wealthy and absentee owners (to the exclusion of the middle class and working class people who make the city run). And you’ll have class- and race-segregated exurbs existing at varying levels of squalor (but all overpriced) whose residents will waste hours on a daily basis due to long commutes and traffic.

    It’ll be Robert Moses getting the last laugh on NYC.

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      KinglyCitrusXrdsAlum
      5/19/16 11:15am

      But... many cities are building public transit out to the exurbs. It’s happening in Dallas, where I’m from, and in Denver and Phoenix and other places. And many of these suburbs aren’t exclusively bedroom communities, anyway. The office parks where people work are often located in the suburbs, and there are plenty of service and retail jobs out there for the working class (unfortunate, but that's their reality).

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      The Alvin Greene DreamXrdsAlum
      5/19/16 11:20am

      What you’ll have instead are cities being the domain of the wealthy and absentee owners (to the exclusion of the middle class and working class people who make the city run).

      Except, what’s going to happen to those penthouse prices when the city is no longer a desirable place to live? The only reason why these make excellent investment properties now is because real estate is such a bubble in NYC. Seriously, just let rich assholes keep playing musical chairs. At some point, the music will stop, and they’ll be left holding the bag.

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    Jivemaster FiveHamilton Nolan
    5/19/16 11:01am

    So they discovered you can happily live and work in a suburb? Shocking!

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      MattyWollyJivemaster Five
      5/19/16 11:03am

      High prices forcing someone to live there hardly suggests discovering happiness. More like bitter submission.

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      ThrumbolioJivemaster Five
      5/19/16 11:08am

      I’m a fan. You couldn’t fucking pay me enough to live in a major metropolitan area. I want a yard, room to grow, and an escape from the perpetual noise.

      I went through my “living the dream” phase, and it lasted all of a year. No thanks, I’m full.

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    DoribaxHamilton Nolan
    5/19/16 11:03am

    “New Census figures show that U.S. urban growth is slowing, “as a bulge of late-20s Americans”

    ...realize to their horror that the hipster urban lifestyle isn’t as awesome five years later as they thought it would be.

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      EvenBaggierTrousers4Doribax
      5/19/16 11:04am

      There are only so many giant Connect Four party nights a person can stand

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      ╰( ´◔ ω ◔ `)╯< Woke and BokeDoribax
      5/19/16 11:05am

      More like they couldn’t afford it on their hipster salaries.

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    Pink SkullHamilton Nolan
    5/19/16 11:21am

    Not good. I get the appeal of the burbs. I’m having a kid and recognize that we won’t have space. Rent will be cheaper. But now I’m going to be one more car on the road, polluting and statistically more dangerous than being a subway rider. Now I’m going to contribute to sprawl and help use up more land. Now I’m probably going to move somewhere where my options for food are giant corporations who will take my money out of the community instead of local businesses. And I know this is all bad, but it’s probably what will end up happening because it’s a pain in the ass to raise a kid in Brooklyn without wealth.

    We need to find a way to make cities the desirable option.

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      Nycguy78Pink Skull
      5/19/16 11:33am

      Not all suburbs are like that. Westchester is a perfect example of an early suburb with walkable town and good public transit.

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      Pink SkullNycguy78
      5/19/16 11:38am

      I assume you mean White Plains (Westchester is an entire county), and I haven’t checked the real estate there but good lord I don’t think I can afford it. Plus I don’t think there’s a ton of available housing.

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    Mount_PrionHamilton Nolan
    5/19/16 11:02am

    Finally all my “go back to the suburbs” cries are heeded.

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      Misteaks were madeHamilton Nolan
      5/19/16 11:07am

      I cannot blame anyone not wanting to live on top of or below their neighbors or tire of looking at concrete day in a out. It’s bad enough having to share a common wall and the neighbor’s 2 year old decides to rap his toys on the wall. Space is nice to have. Especially if you have kids. I have zero regrets moving from a small city to a suburb. Best life decision I made. With the inevitability of autonomous vehicles, the suburbs won’t be such an “evil” place to live again.

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        Group B-raaaaaaaaaap!Misteaks were made
        5/19/16 4:13pm

        As a guy who like space, quietness, and advances in autonomous transit, I welcome your vision of the future.

        As a guy who also looooooves cars and is fully prepared to live as a Scavenger GodKing in the inevitable Mad Max times ahead of us after a Trump presidency, I’ll be the first one on the street beating the Google cars out of commission with a bovine femur.

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      The Creepy KingHamilton Nolan
      5/19/16 11:12am

      Yes, Hamilton, GOOD! Let’s encourage suburban sprawl, longer commutes with gas guzzling, polluting cars on the roads, and development of housing and McMansions all over the landscape just so your rent in NYC can go down. Your selfishness shines through again.

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        Misteaks were madeThe Creepy King
        5/19/16 11:25am

        Suburbs vs having various versions of HamNo for a neighbor...

        Suburbs wins every time.

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      portland1Hamilton Nolan
      5/19/16 10:54am

      That's quite a bulge there, young man.

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        EvenBaggierTrousers4portland1
        5/19/16 10:58am

        Is that gentrification in your pocket or are you happy to pay quadruple the rent?

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        JapaneseJustinBeiberblowupsexdollportland1
        5/19/16 11:08am

        Millennials all wear skinny jeans and the birth control pill hormones in the water make their dicks bigger and also make them effeminate and at least bisexual.

        -Justinbeiberblowupsexdoll, Millennial Bulge Detective

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      Dave Hamilton Nolan
      5/19/16 11:13am

      When the last crumbling ruin drops in the rat infested sewers, I will be drinking in one of the three remaining dive bars on the LES. As the howling hordes of drugged up zombies drags me screaming to my death, I will at know that I outlasted the Hipsters.

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        ThrumbolioHamilton Nolan
        5/19/16 12:07pm

        SIDEBAR: I’ll never - EVER - understand the desire to log on to a website with the sole intention of being a conversational irritant.

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