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SlickWillieHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:52am
Fucking Obama. Employers aren’t going to pay anyone overtime. Think of all the people that will now have their hours cut from 60-80 a week to 40 a week. What are they going to do?? Hang out with their families or something?
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  C.T. Rex PopeSlickWillie
  5/19/16 9:56am
  If your company can’t pay a living wage working 40 hours a week, your business model is a failure.
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  tellupSlickWillie
  5/19/16 9:57am
  Businesses will have to hire more people. They’ll work two less shitty jobs.
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kamla deviHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:57am
I just wish my co-workers didn’t have a “but we don’t want to go out of business” attitude towards this. If you business model doesn’t allow you to pay your employees fairly, then you should go out of fucking business.
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  Xan1567kamla devi
  5/19/16 10:04am
  Would you mind defining “fair pay”?
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  XrdsAlumkamla devi
  5/19/16 10:08am
  Sounds like Employee Stockholm Syndrome is strong in your workplace.
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WashingtonForeskinsHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:54am
This is fascinating. I work for a social services non-profit. A college degree is required for employment and we all work 50-60 hours a week. None of us make the threshhold. I’m sure the people in HR are freaking out, but I’m worried their solution to not breaking the law will be to reduce our pay, benefits, even number of staff, etc.
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  IAmNotADamnWriterWashingtonForeskins
  5/19/16 10:00am
  Of course that’s their solution. Good luck with all this.
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  BobbySeriousWashingtonForeskins
  5/19/16 10:01am
  It sickens me how little social workers make. You tell a lot about a country by it’s financial priorities.
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BobbySeriousHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:49am
Good reporting on this Hamilton. I would also add that most employers are already carefully tracking hours for their various required ACA filings, so there shouldn’t be any additional burden there.
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  Skipping along to our shared destructionBobbySerious
  5/19/16 9:58am
  I guess all those HR and time tracking systems are finally going to be useful for SOMETHING.
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  BurnYourMotherBobbySerious
  5/19/16 9:59am
  good reporting? this is pure cut and paste - not one bit of original journalism or actual reporting - this is base blogging at best...
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Tomas El TiburonHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:50am
This whole story feels very under-the-radar, when it’s actually a pretty huge shift in payment. HamNo might be underestimating the ability of businesses to cut wages to save on OT, but the net effect is still potentially huge. Can’t believe this made it through TBH
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  BobbySeriousTomas El Tiburon
  5/19/16 10:03am
  Yeah I still haven’t had time to really research this yet, but I said a few days ago the fact that Republicans aren’t hanging from the rafters, screaming and throwing their own shit at each other is telling me this legislation can’’t possibly have any teeth.
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  FKAKatesBobbySerious
  5/19/16 10:17am
  You must be reading the wrong news then.
  
  http://www.bna.com/republicans-pr…
  
  http://thehill.com/regulation/lab…
  
  The rule has no more or less “teeth” than the prior $23k overtime exemption standard. Its teeth are DOL enforcement and employee FLSA suits.
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HarrynWhitey4everHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 10:00am
When did capitalism turn into a zero sum game? Even Henry Ford recognized the need for a strong middle class. If you look at wages of the top 1% since 1979, they are the only sector to really benefit from the steady increase in worker productivity. While the bottom 90% have increased 15% and are basically flatlined. I guess 1979 would be around the time St. Ronnie came into the picture, but even he, by today’s conservative standards, would be considered a moderate Democrat. It will never be enough until they have it all. Almost understandable as power corrupts. What is hard to get is the people in the bottom 90 who hold onto this pipe dream that they may one day look down from the top. Gotta go! There is a post on Facebook, and I won’t believe what happens next!
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  jokepitchHarrynWhitey4ever
  5/19/16 10:06am
  That’s a good way to describe the game. “Zero sum” is the goal for both tax rate and employee pay.
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  Murry ChangHarrynWhitey4ever
  5/19/16 10:15am
  Every so often, capitalists forget how capitalism works and government intervention is required to keep the system working.
  
  This is one of those times.
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Oscar 7Hamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:49am
After all the negative comments I saw in response to the story yesterday, I thank you for posting this. This is a good thing for workers, period.
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  BeABigRedOneOscar 7
  5/19/16 9:57am
  Absolutely. Most companies will comply without quibbling—I have personally been involved in the last month with a company re-bidding a large service contract, and they were making good faith efforts to determine which positions will no longer be exempt, and how that will affect overtime, total compensation, etc. For most of the employees involved, it will mean a fairly significant pay increase.
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  Skipping along to our shared destructionOscar 7
  5/19/16 9:59am
  Yes, the sooner we no longer need workers we can finally release them all back into the wild!
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Skipping along to our shared destructionHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:56am
“the base fact is that businesses need labor to meet demand”

Give us a few years. We’re working on getting rid of truck drivers and commercial and freight pilots first. And fast food cashiers. And software developers. And scientists. And so on, and so on.

Pretty soon we’re going to have to answer the question “what do we do with all those expensive surplus people?”.
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  Carlos Danger is my spirit animalSkipping along to our shared destruction
  5/19/16 10:31am
  Gotta make food from something.
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  Skipping along to our shared destructionCarlos Danger is my spirit animal
  5/19/16 11:13am
  That was a pretty Swift response.
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Pink SkullHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:53am
Congratulations to everybody making $45K on your $2,501 raise. I should mention you will have to work a little later from now on though.
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  popjunkiePink Skull
  5/19/16 12:07pm
  Ugh. My husband is a manager and works 60+ hour work weeks. He is literally about $100 above the threshold. Which is fine, and a good living salary! But for the hours he works and responsibilities he has, ends up being pretty low on an hourly basis.
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the.bleachHamilton Nolan
5/19/16 9:53am
Many salaried people don’t qualify for the new overtime rate either. It really applies mostly to service and hospitality jobs that are salaried and don’t include tips, and salaried retail and customer service jobs. Exempted: professionals, administrative employees, executives, those with “specialized knowledge” and sales.
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  WashingtonForeskinsthe.bleach
  5/19/16 9:57am
  Social worker here.
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  efcdonsthe.bleach
  5/19/16 10:45am
  salaried workers making less than the new threshold (except for doctors, lawyers, and teachers) must be paid overtime. Very few unsalaried positions have an overtime exemption. Without looking at the regs the 7(a) retail sales exemption, the outside sales exemption, and the interstate truck driver exemption don’t require the employee be paid on “a salary basis”.
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