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    Kamai - Looming and InevitableHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:44pm

    How many people does this really affect? I don’t know anyone with a salaried position that makes less than $50,000 a year. In my experience positions making less than $50k a year are almost always hourly anyway.

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      MJKamai - Looming and Inevitable
      4/25/16 3:46pm

      My wife makes well below 50k. Her field pays terribly and she’s salaried.

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      HesterMofetKamai - Looming and Inevitable
      4/25/16 3:48pm

      There are many, many of them out there.

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    ZukkaHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:35pm

    Huzzah! The anonymous worker wins a battle!

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      Masshole JamesZukka
      4/25/16 3:39pm

      Until President Clinton or Trump appoint some political hacks and reverse this ruling.

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      toothpetardMasshole James
      4/25/16 3:40pm

      eh, offshore the remaining jobs. win-win.

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    BobbySeriousHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:39pm

    “If your employer doesn’t like it, they can either raise your pay over $50K”

    ....or just make sure there are a few people around making 51k that they can get to do it. Don’t get me wrong, this is progress, but most employers will find a way around it.

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      DolemiteBobbySerious
      4/25/16 4:04pm

      At my place of employment, I’d anticipate they either ignore the law altogether (as they do with many laws), or they are going to make your life pure hell if you try and claim overtime pay, forcing you to provide breakdowns of every single thing you do, every single day, to prove you didn’t waste any time doing something not work related, or not working efficiently enough.

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      The Double DeuceDolemite
      4/25/16 4:07pm

      1. if they ignore the law, call your state’s department of labor. you might get back pay if you can prove you were wronged.

      2. forcing you to account for your time is billable. take your time and milk that shit son. always keep in mind that the last thing most employers want to do is fire competent staff. finding replacements is expensive.

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    ManchuCandidateHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:37pm

    I used to roll my eyes when my fellow supervisors would bitch about how their workers made more than they did thanks to the power of OT. My view is that if they put in the effort and time (and did they) then they earned it.

    Beware the pettiness of middle managers.

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      Kamai - Looming and InevitableManchuCandidate
      4/25/16 3:46pm

      Well, at least where I work those managers often do work 60+ hours a week, especially during crunch times, so it's an understandable complaint.

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      CarlySparklesKamai - Looming and Inevitable
      4/25/16 3:48pm

      my old closing managers would work 2pm to 2am 4 to 5 days a week, no overtime.

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    Tidal TownHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:41pm

    So does that mean they’re essentially getting rid of the “exempt” salaried position? I’m a multimedia designer, ~$40k/yr, and regularly we work 50–60 hours per week (helping out in the warehouse, going to events/conventions/etc. on the weekends, etc.). Presumably this would apply to me, correct?

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      HesterMofetTidal Town
      4/25/16 3:47pm

      Yes. Also, you’ll probably get sent home when you hit 40 hours, or they’ll lay someone off to make up for the increase in payroll it will cause.

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      JaneDoughTidal Town
      4/25/16 3:52pm

      Yes - they are not getting rid of exempt positions - the exemption will now only apply to those making over 50k a year or whatever it is they announce .

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    IAmNotADamnWriterHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 5:30pm

    No it’s not. Believe me, companies will find a workaround for this, if they haven’t already. It’s the nature of how employees are treated in most businesses, big or small, and I wouldn’t exactly spend that extra money you think you’re going to get.

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      Hello_Madam_PresidentIAmNotADamnWriter
      4/25/16 5:48pm

      I mean, the workaround will just be breaking the law. Or giving those close to 50k a raise and making them work a bunch. Which isn’t a workaround because that’s what the law is.

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      IAmNotADamnWriterHello_Madam_President
      4/25/16 5:59pm

      Sure, in the best of all possible worlds, which this one isn’t. I’ll stay tuned for the list of all the companies that are busted for failing to observe this rule.

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    Governor McCheeseHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:37pm

    The tone of the headline kills me. There is no way Hamilton makes $50k or less. He’s not “one of us” - he’s a Brooklyn stereotype who takes his checks from a tax-dodger and laughs his way to the bank while trying to think of more “outrageous” things to get his readers to click and comment on.

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      BobbySeriousGovernor McCheese
      4/25/16 3:48pm

      He’s certainly not one of you, that’s for sure. A head first dive into an empty pool could get him close though....

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      TedCruzsDoubleChinGovernor McCheese
      4/25/16 3:49pm

      That’s ridiculous. Writers for blogs and websites — yes even in (Gasp) Brooklyn or New York — don’t make that much. My friend who writes for a similar website makes $20K. No one blogging is laughing their way to the bank. ...Which is exactly why it’s typically filled with rich people’s kids.

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    MattHamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:47pm

    In alot of ways, this is sort of win-win for people like me. Granted I’m not the type to pull a shit-ton of 40+ hour weeks, most weeks I’m able to keep it right at 40, give or take the odd hour. But still, on those occasions where necessity dictates that I have put in well over my normal 40 due to unforeseen circumstances, it’ll be nice to get a little extra on my pay check at the end of the month. Of course, what’ll practically translate into is that I’ll be expected to be a little more frugal with my time and be expected to keep my hours under 40. Which, is kind of a good thing in and of itself, as I really don’t like having to work alot extra.

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      ArturoMatt
      4/25/16 4:04pm

      When we underwent a merger the new company wanted to switch me to hourly and didn’t like overtime so unless my boss approved it, which he would have, I would have had to keep it under 40 hours a week. This would mean leaving on Friday at, like, 10AM. Of course within two weeks of signing a new contract (yay, more money!) I ended up working 60+ hour weeks for a month because of the merger. Got pretty fucked over on that one but having guaranteed pay even if I miss a few days with a cold works out better in the end.

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      Hello_Madam_PresidentMatt
      4/25/16 5:37pm

      Dude, nothing ruined my work productivity like going salary. I know you’d think it’s the opposite, but when I was billing by the hour, I made sure every dollar was justified. Now that I’m just “on call” and expected to check my emails during my morning poop, I am not that inclined to work super efficiently.

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    ThatGuy524Hamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:41pm

    So in this new world if you’re going to work over 40 hours a week its better to make $49,999 than it is to make $50,000? hmph

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      BreakerBakerThatGuy524
      4/25/16 3:52pm

      It’s not. If they haven’t already, affected employers will send out memoranda telling employees that they are not authorized to clock in excess of 40 hours. Many people in high pressure, deadline sensitive jobs will still work that many hours, but they will know that if it shows up on their time card, they’ll be in trouble. And fighting it by saying that X project wouldn’t have been done if you hadn’t worked those hours is just going to get people to question your time management. This is not intended as a trap, but virtually nothing good is going to come from people saying they’ve worked overtime if they weren’t specifically assigned to work that time.

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      clickbaitandswitchBreakerBaker
      4/25/16 11:39pm

      You’ve just explained my job to a T.

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    rubydog1Hamilton Nolan
    4/25/16 3:59pm

    “If your employer doesn’t like it, they can either raise your pay over $50K, or stop asking you to work extremely long hours without overtime pay.”

    They will go with the latter, and possibly bring in cheap part-timers to make up the difference.

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      ARP2rubydog1
      4/25/16 4:09pm

      Probably, but at least you have some free time back for the same pay.

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      Hello_Madam_Presidentrubydog1
      4/25/16 5:51pm

      But the point is you’re still not working hours and not getting paid for them. You still win in that scenario.

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