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Mr burnsGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:25am
As usual Gawker over simplifies everything. Never gives you the entire store. This was a crime infested park. The month prior 3 dozen gang members were apprehended. Many around his age. It was the second most dangerous rec in the city. They just arrested a 13 yo this weekend for committing armed robbery of pizza drivers. So know what you are talking about before spouting off. Samaria dealt drugs. Left her kids for days. Father was absent.
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  kareemaMr burns
  4/25/16 10:28am
  And you are an angel with an effing shining halo and can pass judgment on this and show everybody, incidentally, what a racist asshole you are.
  Just sayin’....
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  Snake LipssynkMr burns
  4/25/16 10:50am
  crime infested park.. gang members.. arrested a 13 yo this weekend for committing armed robbery.. drug dealts
  
  A special thanks to the rich for aggressively privatizing the region’s wealth over decades. There’s no better way to devastate opportunity than by impoverishing as many citizens as possible first.
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lewis55number2Gabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:15am
Am I wrong in viewing this as actually being bad news? I worry that if cities keep getting to settle these suits and throw taxpayer money at people to make these stories go away they will never have to face up to the prospect of actually making the serious reforms needed to stop the next incident from happening. Look at how much money NYC and Chicago keep showering on victims’ families year after year. They’d rather pay than think seriously about changing their behavior.

I hope one of these suits doesn’t settle at some point so they can win a massive judgment against these cities that really scares the bejesus out of them and forces real changes. I don’t blame any individual family for settling and taking the money, but hope that one such family at some point will refuse to settle and take this trial and beat the crap out of one of these cities.
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  Hip Brooklyn Stereotypelewis55number2
  4/25/16 10:18am
  Super valid point. I’ve often found myself thinking the same thing.
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  butcherbakertoiletrymakerlewis55number2
  4/25/16 10:22am
  My guess is that a lot of these settlements (because these incidents, typically, afflict the very poor) come about by the cities simply dragging their procedural heels and forcing the families to take the settlement money, rather than spend the next 10-15 years in the appeals process. The cities have many more resources at their disposal than a poor family—even one who is getting pro bono representation. At some point, even their lawyer is going to look at their own personal cost-benefit analysis and recommend that their clients take the money.
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BernerV2.0Gabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 11:02am
Open carry doesn’t mean what you think it means.
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  Dinosaurs and Nachos, girlfriend!BernerV2.0
  4/25/16 11:28am
  I live in an open carry state. Please, do tell us what it means.
  
  Because I’ve had people right outside my house with actual guns, not practicing proper gun safety, and the police have told me there is literally nothing they can or will do. Unless those people are actively brandishing a gun at me while verbally threatening me AND THE POLICE OBSERVE THEM DOING IT, they will not even be arrested, much less shot.
  
  So this is how some police departments handle things in an open carry state. But please, tell us more.
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ThePriceofEggsinMaltaGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:27am
This seems like a pittance to me. I still can’t get over the fact that Loehmann’s employment history isn’t costing Cleveland a great deal more. Cleveland handed a firearm to someone whose personnel file was rife with evidence that he should never be in a position of authority, let alone be given a fucking weapon. Let’s all take a moment to remember that the Cleveland Police willingly hired someone with all of the following in his personnel file:

“He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,” according to the letter written by Deputy Chief Jim Polak of the Independence police.
“I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct the deficiencies,” Polak said.
The problems at Independence erupted on Nov. 28, 2012, the records say. Loehmann showed up “sleepy and upset” for a 6 a.m. state gun qualification session.
Police Sgt. Greg Tinnierello wrote that Loehmann “was distracted and was not following simple instructions” at the shooting range.
At one point, he went to the back of the range to reload his magazine and could not return to the line where he was supposed to shoot from, Tinnierello wrote. Loehmann appeared to be crying and was emotionally upset so Tinnierello said they would stop the exercise for the day.
Polak concluded his report by saying that Loehmann lacked the maturity to understand the severity of his breakdown on the shooting range.
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  audenThePriceofEggsinMalta
  4/25/16 2:10pm
  Holy sh*t. They let this guy be a cop?! Are they *that* desperate for recruits? Really?!
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Snake LipssynkGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:22am
So the options for Cleveland are:

confront racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., institutional culture and suffer fewer lawsuits,

soldier on in ignorance until city is bankrupt, or

soldier on and hope for more Panama Paper-like events to hurry regulations that re-direct wealth from the rich to cities, states and nations (taxpayers) so they can afford to maintain exclusionary public policies for its citizens?
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  Sid and FinancySnake Lipssynk
  4/25/16 10:33am
  Don’t overthink this. We’re talking about Cleveland: The choices are pierogies or schnitzel.
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  Snake LipssynkSid and Financy
  4/25/16 10:45am
  The choices are pierogies or schnitzel
  
  Goulash or Palacsinta didn’t make the cut?! But it’s our second largest diaspora!
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MolierthanthouGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:25am
Maybe if the police stop shooting people then there would be more of a budget for... I don’t know, anything good.
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  Meat HelmetMolierthanthou
  4/25/16 11:07am
  Cleveland’s problem isn’t cops shooting people, it’s people committing tons of crime there:
  
  http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/cleveland/c…
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  louboudreauMeat Helmet
  4/25/16 3:29pm
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-…
  
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Mr burnsGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:30am
Funny so many comments from people who have never lived here and know what the area is like. Typical liberals
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  louboudreauMr burns
  4/25/16 3:34pm
  I sort of doubt you live in Cudell. Maybe Lakewood, but based on the “typical liberals” comment I’m guessing no. I’d peg you for Parma, or far east side, maybe Chardon.
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Negasonic Oldage WarheadGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 11:51am
This is really the only way victims of police violence can get any kind of justice. It’s sad. It’s also bad for local governments. The dollar amount of police brutality settlements paid out by the City of Chicago over the past decade is staggering. If that money had not been paid out, Chicago’s finances, while still bad, would be noticeably less bad now.
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CorbettoGabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 10:28am
Cleveland has $6 million?
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j4x_Gabrielle Bluestone
4/25/16 11:59am
AHRHGHGHGHGHGHHA

THEY BELONG IN MOTHERFUCKING PRISON

GODFUCKINGANALFISTINGFOOTSNIFFING ASSHOLES

ARGHHHHHHH

/breathes out

//i hope the money helps

///still not justice
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