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    icanneverremembermyburnercodeJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 10:51pm

    I’m still really torn on this. While I do believe everyone should be afforded a living wage, I’m concerned on what this will do to the unemployment rate of the very people this is supposed to help.

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      JiminyCricketicanneverremembermyburnercode
      4/04/16 11:00pm

      Pretty much every study since Ford provided his workers a livable wage over a century ago has reinforced the theory that better paid workers result in increased spending across the board, including at the companies that are paying their workers more. Plus it increases government tax revenues at all levels. It’s a win-win-win situation.

      When you also keep in mind that most large US corporations are sitting on insane amounts of cash at the moment, then any job losses are likely to come from execs making politically-minded decisions as they’ve threatened in the past.

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      duckinthefaceat250knotsicanneverremembermyburnercode
      4/04/16 11:01pm

      It goes into effect over six years. I think businesses and the local economies will have time to adjust (or buy robots or illegals /s). It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

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    dp4mJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 10:51pm

    This keeps coming up and is bullshit every time.

    She’s pushing for a $12 / hour FEDERAL minimum wage and has always supported the $15 / hour minimum wage increases where they’ve been started, such as EXPLICITLY Fight for 15 in LA/NY. All of this is on her website, and has been for ages. FFS.

    https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-ra…

    And yet nothing about Sanders surrogates like Rosario Dawson calling President Obama a “failed Presidency” and not because of Republican obstructionism.

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      ggggunitdp4m
      4/04/16 11:04pm

      Chill, shill.

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      Manny-Bothansdp4m
      4/04/16 11:06pm

      This is exactly goddamn right. But good luck convincing this crowd that Hillary is anything but evil incarnate.

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    The Alvin Greene DreamJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 11:00pm

    This is what Clinton did in Flint, too. Once federal money was already on the way, she swooped in on the campaign trail and did some pressers with the mayor to make it look like she’d personally secured the funds. And the thing is, while this sort of opportunistic spin-doctoring might have worked in the past, we’ve reached the point where there’s so much information out there that people can analyze it and see it for what it is. Clinton is playing politics in an extremely old-fashioned way, and it shows more and more with each passing day.

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      JeususMessiahComplexThe Alvin Greene Dream
      4/04/16 11:24pm

      There seriously needs to be an uncompromising left in this country. I mean in general if you look at the Democratic Party it is just a Centrist party, and implosion of the Republican party will pull it to the center even more.

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      The Alvin Greene DreamJeususMessiahComplex
      4/04/16 11:33pm

      I think there’s going to be an uncompromising left very soon, and the Democrats would do well to embrace it now before they’re forced to suffer electoral disappointments as a result of it.

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    Chuck E.Jeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 11:39pm

    Bernie or bust, amirite? That Hillary’s plan suggested a tiered minumum wage, from $12 across-the-board federally, to higher where the COL supports it.

    Fuck youuuuuuuuu.

    From her site (which no one at Gawker seems to have read):

    Raising the minimum wage and strengthening overtime rules. Hillary believes we are long overdue in raising the minimum wage. She has supported raising the federal minimum wage to $12, and believes that we should go further than the federal minimum through state and local efforts, and workers organizing and bargaining for higher wages, such as the Fight for 15 and recent efforts in Los Angeles and New York to raise their minimum wage to $15. She also supports the Obama administration’s expansion of overtime rules to millions more workers.

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      infohackChuck E.
      4/05/16 12:09am

      Except that number works in very few places in the United States.

      According to the National Low Income Housing Coalition, if a family needs to rent just a modest two-bedroom apartment anywhere in America, the lowest compatible wage would be $12.95 in Arkansas. An overview of this report shows that in 2015, the two-bedroom national housing hourly wage requirement is to earn at least $19.35 per hour and to not spend more than 30 percent of that income on the rent.

      But, hey, lets just leave it up to the states to decide if people cab get by on $12 an hour. That has worked really well for health care.

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      Chuck E.infohack
      4/05/16 12:22am

      For some reason I got like twenty notifications for this one reply. Kinja!

      The report says $12.95/hour for the household, so two people at $12/hr would be more than enough to exceed the amount needed in Arkansas, and more than the $20/hr needed for the nationwide average. Note: I don’t believe a household making $48k/year is liveable. Right now, my household pulls in just that and we are not making it. But if you want to argue numbers, that’s what you get.

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    bielzebubbyJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 10:59pm

    Every time Gawker Media attempts to smear Hillary Clinton, I donate to her campaign.

    +$15 for this dreck

    Also, Bernie didn’t support marriage equality until it was convenient. In 2006, he voted AGAINST marriage equality for Vermont. But clearly nothing is going to derail the primary narrative of Gawker: The Bernie Propaganda Machine.

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      Seademondbielzebubby
      4/04/16 11:10pm

      Gotta get that chip off your sboulder somehow. Also...that must be nice to divest funds to a political candidate everytime you read a leftist pundit blog that differs from yours. I’d be broke! :)

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      Unbelizeablebielzebubby
      4/04/16 11:10pm

      $585 short of a haircut. Can you link to the go fund me?

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    ThatFatScatCat fucking loves muddy puddlesJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 10:42pm

    “Can I advocate for this now? Are other people doing it? I’ll only do it if everyone else is doing it.”

    -Hilary Clinton, probably.

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      phunkshunThatFatScatCat fucking loves muddy puddles
      4/04/16 10:51pm

      Lamentably correct.

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      drumwaveThatFatScatCat fucking loves muddy puddles
      4/04/16 10:53pm

      Technically, that is the definition of public servant.

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    rrpeteJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 11:30pm

    OMG GAIZ stop being mean to Hillary! She’s supporting $15 dollars an hour to help downticket voting!

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      KittenMorningsrrpete
      4/05/16 1:32am

      You watch your tone!

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      rrpeteKittenMornings
      4/05/16 2:34am

      Let’s DEBATE. Oh, wait, I win because Hillary is we. So that will be Sunday night or during an NCAA game. If you object you’re a coward and I’m awesome.

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    onholdJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 11:27pm

    Nice article. Except for the fact that it’s false:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/…

    In fact, she’s started fighting for minimum wage increases long ago, and played a role in getting it up from abyssmal to sorry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Mini…

    Of course, she advocated a $12/hr min. wage instead of $15 in congress. I guess that means she’s in the pocket of big business, right? Of course not - that would be the repubs that have blocked the entire raise for almost ten years now.

    $15/hr probably is the min. in New York (where she supported it) and California (where she supports it), but would range from difficult to unsustainable in most of the rest of the country. Especially in poorer, rural areas - the areas that need a raise the most.

    But shit, people, she’s been fighting for minimum wage increases since she got in a position to fight for them; we should be able to rationally differ on the fucking amount.

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      KittenMorningsonhold
      4/05/16 12:31am

      The living wage for families in pretty much every state in America is around $20 an hour. So I would say that $15 is a lot closer to that than $12. If you think $3/hour isn’t a lot of money, you have never been poor.

      That leads to my next question. Why should only New York get a raise (Hillary’s home state) when everyone in America needs it? And lastly, she’s not fighting very hard for her own state since the living wage there for families is around $27/hour. This increase is something, but it’s not nearly enough on either her state or our national level to get us where we need to be.

      http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archi…

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      Zaramakovonhold
      4/05/16 2:11am

      All the donations she takes from big business might mean she is in the pocket of big business.

      As you say though only when Republican’s take money from big business are they in the pocket of big business, when Hillary does it she just um ah...

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    Hello_Madam_PresidentJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 10:46pm

    I know California’s law is $15/hour by 2022 (right?). I went through a few stages of grief, really, when I realized that at the rate cost of living is skyrocketing in many cities, $15/hour in 2022 might still not be that great (better, sure, but not like, 1940s better). Then I had the revelation that everyone in other places that haven’t even passed something like this are extra doomed.

    Then I had a sad face.

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      JaneDoughHello_Madam_President
      4/04/16 10:59pm

      SF gets to 15$ in 2018 and then it's indexed to inflation. So SFs will be higher then 15$ by 2022

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      Hello_Madam_PresidentJaneDough
      4/04/16 11:06pm

      That’s good. I hope other high rent areas follow suit.

      (and, sidenote, the fact that it’s not nationally indexed to inflation is a damn shame no matter where you live)

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    ApparentlyEveryNameHasBeenTakenJeff Ihaza
    4/04/16 10:39pm

    And the Gawker Bernie Bros strike again.

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      Pyrate-RobApparentlyEveryNameHasBeenTaken
      4/04/16 11:01pm

      Yep. They’re the younger brothers of the Obama Boys. Oh, how 8 years makes so little difference in tactics.

      Now, the “other” label has been thrown out there. I wonder if there was a memo about that too?

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      SiblingRevelryPyrate-Rob
      4/04/16 11:05pm

      There’s no shortage of Hillary-bots, it seems.

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