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    FlankSpeedBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:37pm

    I’m not so quick to believe any of this, and point out the attached link from NASA which claims from 2012-2014 the Antarctic ice pack was at record maximum levels.

    http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddar…

    The environmental movement faces a boy-who-cried-wolf problem, having predicted, completely incorrectly, everything from running out of oil in 20 years to the now fixed hole in the ozone layer.

    Science needs to master its facts, BEFORE launching on this “end of the world oh my god worse than the Mayan calendar” mantra.

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      You might be wrong.FlankSpeed
      3/30/16 7:49pm

      Okay, but from your own source:

      While the Antarctic sea ice yearly wintertime maximum extent hit record highs from 2012 to 2014 before returning to average levels in 2015, both the Arctic wintertime maximum and its summer minimum extent have been in a sharp decline for the past decades. Studies show that globally, the decreases in Arctic sea ice far exceed the increases in Antarctic sea ice.

      And you know why ozone depletion is less of an issue today than in the past, right?

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      FlankSpeedYou might be wrong.
      3/30/16 8:11pm

      Thanks for pointing out the quote, and that is my point exactly.

      The Gawker article said the (west) Antarctic ice sheet “might” break up sooner than expected. I countered with a NASA article documenting that the Antarctic ice pack was just at historic high levels, contradicting the Gawker article, and your retort is that the arctic ice sheet is shrinking.

      My point was, scientists are taking us, on the point of the Antarctic, from record maximum ice ever to “oh my god buy a snorkel” predictions, in 12 months time.

      And to be credible, they need to get their shit in one sock, and the media needs to be better at understanding the repeatability of good science instead of the headline grabbing hysteria of bad science.

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    ZacstrohBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:25pm

    Just have Trump build a wall to keep the water out

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      toothpetardZacstroh
      3/30/16 7:32pm

      Atlantis can pay for it.

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      ancientegyptianalienZacstroh
      3/30/16 7:34pm

      And make the fish pay for it!

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    ARP2Brendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:43pm

    We should establish a few things when publishing articles like this:

    1. Antarctic ice sheets are growing, but it’s due to a loss of salinity of the water, due to ice melt from the land. The net result is that there is less ice. The loss of ice sheets like the one in the article means that its melting at a faster pace than expected.

    2. The arctic is also losing ice at fairly rapid pace.

    3. The “no warming for 17 years” is a bit of fuckery because 1998 was an unusually hot year. So, the likes of Ted Cruz, picked this year to misrepresent the overall trend and the overall trend continues to be towards the planet getting warmer.

    4. Yes, the earth goes through natural cycles, but many (most?) scientists believe we should be heading towards a cooling, not getting warmer. So, we seem to be operating off-cycle.

    5. Even in the 80's, the consensus was that global warming was a problem. Time and some other media outlets picked up on the handful of studies that predicted cooling and pretended that was the consensus.

    6. Climate Change and Global Warming were both coined and used by scientists, but I believe most scientists no use climate change to be more accurate, as some parts of the earth may get cooler, but overall global temps are getting warmer. Luntz suggested using Climate Change because he thought it sounded less dangerous.

    7. Just because we can’t predict climate change impacts with 100% accuracy, it doesn’t mean we don’t know it’s happening. We still don’t fully understand photosynthesis, but we know that most plants need the sun.

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      NuOrder72ARP2
      3/30/16 7:49pm

      Ha!! FACTS!! I fart in your general direction!!

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      ErgatesARP2
      3/30/16 7:51pm

      “6. Climate Change and Global Warming were both coined and used by scientists, but I believe most scientists no use climate change to be more accurate,”

      There’s only so many times you can say “No, it’s *Global* warming, a net warming globally” before you say “Fuck it, lets come up with a new name”

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    toothpetardBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:32pm

    Good luck kids, sorry we blew all that capital. Retroactive thoughts and prayers from dead us.

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      Fred Garvin Male Prostitutetoothpetard
      3/30/16 7:34pm

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      toothpetardFred Garvin Male Prostitute
      3/30/16 7:39pm

      “If you lived here you’d be dead by now”

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    ajliennnnBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:30pm

    The end of much of humanity, maybe, but the world will keep living

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      toothpetardajliennnn
      3/30/16 7:35pm

      a paper-thin geological era of WTF to be preserved in the stratigraphic record.

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      MarioOajliennnn
      3/30/16 7:41pm

      Not even the end of humanity. Not even close. Unless New York is all of humanity. And the Netherlands. I’d miss the Netherlands.

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    Sid and FinancyBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:29pm

    I’m becoming convinced that climate change is like the Trump campaign. The more outrageous the claims, the greater the media doomsaying, the less people care.

    Yet another instance where my misanthropy comes in handy: Surf’s up!

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      RemusShepherdSid and Financy
      3/30/16 8:35pm

      You’re not wrong. The more doomsaying there is, the more people throw their hands up and say, “Welp, I guess there’s nothing we can do. Might as well party ‘till we die.” That’s just how human beings work.

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    DirktaniusBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:49pm

    It’s been a good 6000 year run.

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      BipolarizingDirktanius
      3/30/16 9:26pm

      Well played sir. But get ready cause I hear a guy is coming with fire, angels and a bunch of really mean pokemon before the end.

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      DontBeSuchaBoobPunchTinaBipolarizing
      3/30/16 11:05pm

      At least the horses will be cool.

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    Icecold DavisBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:34pm

    I, for one, am looking to a new, Florida-less, republic.

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      stuckinthegreyswithyouIcecold Davis
      3/30/16 7:39pm

      It will look like the U.S. got castrated.

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    signofthenineBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:28pm

    “We’re not saying you’re fucked but...Your kids are fucked.”

    <world sighs in relief, goes back to what it was doing>

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      FlankSpeedsignofthenine
      3/30/16 7:37pm

      Your kids will be fine and this is all BS

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      ScoronataFlankSpeed
      3/31/16 2:37am

      I’m guessing you have zero science background.

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    FelixElixBrendan O'Connor
    3/30/16 7:30pm

    Brendan, I think you forgot to log out of your computer and HamNo got a hold of it.

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      KyuzoFelixElix
      3/30/16 7:37pm

      The thought of there being one shared Gawker computer made me chuckle.

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      DontBeSuchaBoobPunchTinaKyuzo
      3/30/16 11:10pm

      Actual photo of Gawker offices:

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