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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 11:58am
This is horrible, but I wonder if there’s any proof she was targeted for being trans, instead of just for being a woman.
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  hulkdentonzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  3/29/16 12:00pm
  i’m guessing if he was a regular there he wasn’t much interested in women
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  Sid and Financyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  3/29/16 12:00pm
  I’m glad someone is asking the important questions.
  
  It’s not you, but surely someone, somewhere is.
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PaddyCruseRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 11:59am
Not going to jump to conclusions because obviously I don’t have all the information, but even if he isn’t a rapist, he should still be arrested because that suit is a crime all on its own.
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  Sonic Reducer 151PaddyCruse
  3/29/16 12:08pm
  It’s like he lost a bet to Austin Powers’ duvet.
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  dolemitePaddyCruse
  3/29/16 1:04pm
  I imagine being raped is unpleasant, but having it done by someone wearing that is a slap in the face.
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handmadeproteinshakeRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 11:56am
Christ. I read this and thought, wait someone raped someone at confederate solider memorial. The Fuck is Happening.

Not that it is any better at a hotel, but it does reduce the shock factor.
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  MBCockhandmadeproteinshake
  3/29/16 11:59am
  SEE? WE WERE RIGHT! - NORTH CAROLINA
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  Ianhandmadeproteinshake
  3/29/16 12:03pm
  I am not gay, but my friends of the gay community, here on Gawker, can confirm that this bar was at the forefront of the movement in the 70's and 80's, if I’m not mistaken.
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WhatthefoxsaysRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 12:15pm
Ok, I’m asking because I’m a bit confused. When the article says it was a trans woman, does that mean she was a biological male who transitioned to female? Or a biological female who transitioned to male?
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  Mak attackWhatthefoxsays
  3/29/16 12:16pm
  m-t-f
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  FreshlyShavenWhatthefoxsays
  3/29/16 12:23pm
  A transwoman is someone who was born biologically male(or indeterminate) and transitioned to female.
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CalentoRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 1:51pm
He raped a trans woman at the Stonewall Inn? That's like peeing in the holy water at church.
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  You might be wrong.Calento
  3/29/16 3:46pm
  Well, no, because trans people are real and holy water is a pretend label people apply to regular water to pretend it’s special.
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  AlriiiiiiiiiiiiightYou might be wrong.
  3/29/16 5:06pm
  Come on, man. This is the kind of stupid comment that makes people think all atheists are assholes. No reason for it whatsoever. (And this is coming from an atheist.)
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curiousRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 12:05pm
Uhhh...there’s a camera IN the bathroom? Confused.
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  PopChipscurious
  3/29/16 12:10pm
  I think it’s mounted in the hallway and is monitoring the doors leading to the restrooms. (When I owned a restaurant, I had cameras mounted outside the doors that led to my unisex single occupancy restrooms. Single occupancy gives a nice degree of privacy but unfortunately that seclusion can provide the opportunity for crimes like this one to occur.)
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  Trouvéecurious
  3/29/16 12:12pm
  Based on what’s visible in the pictures shown, I think it’s in a non-invasive location and for safety reasons.
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HOLPosterRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 2:50pm
First of all, before anything else, we must acknowledge that what happened here is horrible. A sexual assault of any kind whether it be a transgendered female or not is awful. I tend to think there is so much more anger involved with the assault of a transgender person, and that to me makes it worse. Don’t worry. It’s my weird mind. Not yours.

However, the whole “transgender people are not a threat, but they are threatened” statement misses the point entirely of the people who want to argue over whether using the bathroom of your ‘preferred gender’ should be allowed.

It’s not the actual transgender people that are the threat and that are causing people to worry. Its not where the legal issue would lie. It’s with people who would use the ability to walk into their biologically opposite gender bathroom to do nefarious things, when they AREN’T transgender at all. There WILL be people that use it as an excuse to be in there when they shouldn’t be, and since transgenderism comes with an incredible lack of understanding about what leads to it, there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do to prove one way or the other that the person actually IS in that position. Even if you could, even if you could find a gene or a hormone or whatever that proved that transgenderism was an inherited thing or a genetic thing or a hormonal thing, what are you going to do with that information? Demand to see their papers? Maybe mark them with an inverted triangle with a distinctive color to differentiate them from people who DON’T genetically or chemically have such an issue?

You’re right, transgender folks are no more a threat to people than anyone else, but its the ACTUAL PERVERTS that will use laws designed to protect others to allow them access to things they shouldn’t have access to. Find a solution to that, and let’s move forward.
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  You might be wrong.HOLPoster
  3/29/16 3:48pm
  No one is talking about people being allowed to use the bathroom of their preferred gender. People are upset because laws like North Carolina’s are being passed to prevent people from using the bathrooms that correspond with their actual gender, forcing men to use women’s bathrooms and women to use men’s bathrooms.
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  HOLPosterYou might be wrong.
  3/29/16 5:22pm
  No. They aren’t. They are passing laws that make you use the bathroom of the gender you were born as. Not that hard to figure out. It IS hard to figure out how to let those that aren’t biologically born whatever gender they feel like they truly are live exactly how they want without opening the door to actual perverts who want to take advantage of the law that allows one to do so. Its a difficult thing to figure out without violating privacy of those who ARE ACTUALLY TRANSGENDER. I get it. It sucks. It’s also the world we live in. It’s not Transgender folks who are the issue in general. It is sick people who would take advantage and use it as a way to gain access to a place they shouldn’t have access to. That’s what we have to prevent, and the answer isn’t that simple. You know that, but you want to simplify it to a much more black and white issue because, frankly, you’re a fucking simpleton.
  
  The fact of the matter is that none of this fucking matters. I don’t know how most people operate in the bathroom, but I get in, I do my business, and I get the fuck out. I don’t sit there and check out everyone’s genitals as I’m in there. If you’re a transgender man and you want to take a piss in the men’s bathroom, no one is going to make you whip out your junk and prove you have the same dick you were born with. If you’re a transgender woman, go into the stall, sit down, do your business, and get the fuck out of there. No one is in there poking at your groin to see if their finger gets caught in a vajayjay. If you look like a woman or man and carry yourself as one, no one is going to question it
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LVNRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 11:58am
Man that suit.... How can he not be easily spotted in that suit?
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  okiedokieokieLVN
  3/29/16 12:08pm
  Just think how easy it would be to slide over on the subway to give somebody a seat.
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  A SPOOKY GHOST!okiedokieokie
  3/29/16 12:55pm
  Maybe too easy, you could end up flying towards the end of the car if you put too much momentum into it.
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gramercypoliceRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 12:10pm
The guy elected Governor of North Carolina says New York should just outlaw trans people in bars. Problem solved!

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  johnseaveygramercypolice
  3/29/16 3:48pm
  That fucking guy. Seriously, you think you’re a pacifist, and then he starts talking.
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HelenofPeelRich Juzwiak
3/29/16 11:56am
Something just sounds off about this incident.
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  Absolutely NotHelenofPeel
  3/29/16 1:17pm
  Off how?
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  nosleepdreamsHelenofPeel
  3/29/16 2:44pm
  thanks for your input! so illuminating!
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