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    VanessarefusestowritedownburnerkeyAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 6:59pm

    I’m taking a medical aesthetics course and my teacher (who has no actual science degree) is an anti-vaxxer (not to mention, she think that when you die, the body leaves a sweet smell to let your family members know they’re in a good place or some fucking shit.)

    I’m only 3 weeks in and I want to quit this course bc she’s such an effin moron. I’m this close to making a complaint against her, but I’m worried the response will be ‘too bad so sad’ and I’ll have a target on my back.

    I’m just waiting to come to class on Monday and she’ll use him as proof that vaccines causes autism. Aghhhhhhh.

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      chritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfishVanessarefusestowritedownburnerkey
      3/26/16 7:06pm

      I’m taking a medical aesthetics course and my teacher (who has no actual science degree) is an anti-vaxxer

      What in the world is a “medical aesthetics course”?

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      FromthedeskofSovietCanuckistanchritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfish
      3/26/16 7:07pm

      Cosmic sturgeonery?

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    chritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfishAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 6:59pm

    Well, good. Wakefield can go peddle his double-down propaganda piece on fringe cruises and to the tinfoil-hat crowd. The Tribeca Film Festival risked their reputation screening this dreck, and it seems that finally sank in.

    Just like Holocaust-deniers and 9/11 conspiracy theorists, some issues don’t really need any more “conversation” in the mainstream marketplace of ideas. You’ll always have Reddit, (ex-)Dr. Wakefield.

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      anniegawker2-electricboogaloochritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfish
      3/26/16 7:19pm

      The guy that runs Fark, wrote a book called; It’s Not News, It’s Fark: How Mass Media Tries to Pass Off Crap as News. It includes a chapter titled, “Equal Time for Nutjobs,” about how the media likes to give the opposite side of a story, even when it’s proven to be untrue for “the conversation,” when really they’re doing it to sell papers/get page hits. It even cites anti-vaxxers as an example.

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      chritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfishanniegawker2-electricboogaloo
      3/26/16 7:24pm

      It’s ridiculous and infuriating. Look, it’s a paleontologist and a “The Flintstones was a documentary” guy arguing over the fossil record and evolution! Fairness! Balance!

      /vomit

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    fighting polish is David Schwimmer as Rob Kardashian SrAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 6:56pm

    what about the FIRST AMENDMENT, Robert DeNiro

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      dbx7fighting polish is David Schwimmer as Rob Kardashian Sr
      3/26/16 6:59pm

      the First Amendment does not apply here. This is a private film festival. The first amendment is designed to prevent the government from punishing or preventing speech and expression. An organizer deciding to pull a film from a festival has zero first amendment implications.

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      fighting polish is David Schwimmer as Rob Kardashian Srdbx7
      3/26/16 7:08pm

      ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thanks

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    randilynisFINDILYNAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 6:55pm

    Betcha he read the comment section.

    ETA: I meant our comment section of course.

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      bonnismournedinterruptedorgasmrandilynisFINDILYN
      3/26/16 7:04pm

      we are the best!

      this has been 500 DoK

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      3/26/16 7:40pm
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    ColinAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 7:06pm

    It’s the right decision in terms of public health, honest debate, and Tribeca’s reputation. Unfortunately it will fuel the manic fever-dreams of conspiracy theorists for years to come.

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      D. WalkerColin
      3/26/16 9:37pm

      The manic fever-dreams of conspiracy theorists are actually self fueling. The things they claim “prove” their madness come and ago - but the underlying sickness stays the same.

      Trust me, even if the movie hadn’t been pulled (which it absolutely should have), the nutjobs out there would find something else to cling to, no matter how idiotic or trivial.

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      CridiaColin
      3/26/16 10:24pm

      Those assholes will have manic fever-dreams of conspiracies whether this thing will be shown or not. I mean, the logic of the average anti-vaxxer goes something like this:

      1. Claim A.
      2. Claim A is proven to be false.
      3. Claim B.
      4. Claim B is proven to be false.
      5. Claim A again.

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    lunchcomaAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 6:58pm

    Good. I think there are some films about Wakefield and the anti-vax movement that could be an interestsing source of conversation, but Wakefield himself had far too much of a platform for far too long. I can’t see much good coming of giving him any further semblance of credibility.

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      I'm Fart and I'm Smunnylunchcoma
      3/26/16 9:09pm

      I would personally love to see a documentary about the journalist who discovered his fraud. That would incredibly helpful and maybe prevent some people from being anti-vaxx.

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      lunchcomaI'm Fart and I'm Smunny
      3/26/16 10:04pm

      That would be a fascinating movie.

      I’d also be interested in one about the adult children of anti-vaxxers (the very oldest children whose parents boycotted due to Wakefield’s work would be 18, and there were smaller groups of people who were avoiding vaccinations before then), how it’s affected their lives, and how they relate to their parents’ beliefs.

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    Will HolzAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 9:28pm

    Why isn’t Wakefield in prison?

    The anti-Vax death toll is over 9K, and he’s at least partly responsible for them.

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      dorothy zpornak's humpWill Holz
      3/26/16 9:38pm

      This. I don’t understand why parents have convinced themselves that autism is worse than measles, whooping cough, fucking meningitis, etc. To me, that is a horrible insult to anyone who has ever had to deal with autism in their life. I just want to shake these people and say that autism is not a death sentence. Not getting a young child with a still-developing immune system likely could be a death sentence.

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      goddessoftransitoryWill Holz
      3/27/16 12:27am

      There’s no law team in the world prepared to put in the money and time required to put a viable legal case together.

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    Bokbunzajoo1Anna Merlan
    3/26/16 6:54pm

    “We feel that screening a film that links vaccines to autism is irresponsible and despite our best efforts to spin it as a conversation piece, we have come to realize that there cannot be any productive conversation stemming from research published by a discredited quack.”

    I feel this would have made a better statement?

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      Waiting For The RaptorBokbunzajoo1
      3/26/16 7:40pm

      YES. x 100000000000

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    JoeoftheEmpireAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 7:15pm

    Yeah I give him the benefit of the doubt about his motivations. He has an autistic son and wanted to start a conversation about autism and the increase in diagnosis, but this is not the documentary to do it. He’s not an anti-vaxxer himself so I am surprised he picked this as his way to start that conversation and i’m glad he’s thought better of it.

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      TimF101JoeoftheEmpire
      3/26/16 8:59pm

      I bet he did not watch it until the controversy, then he watched it and said holy shit.

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      Alfonso P. P. Fatty IIIJoeoftheEmpire
      3/26/16 9:09pm

      Not everything needs to be a conversation, and he wouldn’t have been starting one, only throwing fire on the side that has done a lot of damage specifically because of this pathetic excuse for a human.

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    GoatsausageAnna Merlan
    3/26/16 9:49pm

    vaccinations though not a natural process can obviously be beneficial, but we also have created super-bugs and increasingly stronger bacteria and viruses due to the over use of medications. As such inflicting ailments eventually become immune to such deterrents, making them far more lethal than they wouldve been naturally. In fact theirs a current scare in the medical world about antibiotics no longer being effective only in the next few years. Instead of people allowing their bodies to naturally fight and build resistances to ailments, we rather foolishly have taken to all sorts of medications to fight off ailments leaving our bodies naturally defenseless, in fact making our bodies far weaker and susceptible than normal. Also we are inflected by the very foods we eat. Because of intensive agriculture and extremely poor means of producing foods, we’re not getting the nutrients that foods once provided. Live stock raised not on grass but on corn meal something they dont eat naturally. Fish given chicken byproduct , poltry raised intensively containing more fat than protein steroids, growth hormones and antibiotics. All this and the very agencies that are suppose to protect and oversight the industry has been payed off to look the other way. FDA. And we wonder why so many outbreaks of of disease and ecoli keep acurring. year after year. We literally eat animals raised in utter and complete filth. And dont be fooled by the “organic” industry and labels as the very same and very few producers lie on their labeling. theirs only 4 meat producers in the US, despite all the labels and brands you see, they all get their meats from the same producers. and if you think their some great grass haven where cows are raised then think again. and oh btw how could such grass havens exist year round? dont be fooled by labels. its the same stuff, unless your dealing with a very small local private farm.

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      lucy.schlubeckGoatsausage
      3/26/16 11:01pm

      You’re kind of all over the place, but very wrong about resistance and vaccinations. You know bacteria and viruses are different, right? Bacteria are the ones that are growing increasingly resistant to antibiotics. We have some vaccines for bacterial infections, but they absolutely do not lead to the superresistant strains you are discussing (because your body doesn’t get them). As for viruses, the vaccines help your body to fight them, and they are not the infections we are worried about becoming resistant (Again, antibiotics don’t fight viruses).

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      I8 E pilucy.schlubeck
      3/27/16 12:04pm

      Some people don't want to believe in increased life expectancy due to science. Even though there's more obvious proof than with their conspiracies.

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