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Maj. MalfunctionHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:38pm
The rich in this country seriously don’t want to have to see poor people. Ever. If they could get machines to do their all their menial tasks so that they never had to see any of the poors ever again, they’d be thrilled. They literally want to live in a completely different reality from the rest of us. And they’re mostly getting their way on this.
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  TreyMaj. Malfunction
  3/22/16 5:41pm
  You pretty much summed up Google’s R&D department goals
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  SmithCommaJohnMaj. Malfunction
  3/22/16 5:48pm
  Pretty soon the Bay Area will be populated entirely by millionaires and their robot servants.
  
  I’m only slightly exaggerating.
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raincoasterHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:40pm
This will just lead to a plague of governesses.
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  ╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯< Woke and Bokeraincoaster
  3/22/16 5:50pm
  I seriously doubt that, seeing as Americans lack any sense of class. Their version of home schooling tends more towards religious instruction. I think we’re sooner to see Christian madrasas in America than any proper schooling by a governess.
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  Sean Brodyraincoaster
  3/22/16 5:50pm
  Super Cali’s fucked up listings are really quite atrocious
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JohannesClimacusHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:36pm
Which is why we need to correct the distributive outcomes of our economy, especially in the Bay Area, where some ungodly amount of the nearly free money that has been injected into the banking system since 2008 has ended up, thanks to Banks and VCs (and, of course, the Fed). Time to start taxing that fat bearded Google email engineer and paying teachers more (directly and indirectly through publi cspending on education, public transport, infrastructure, health care, child care, education, etc) so that they can compete in the same housing market. It’s the only way forward.
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  EatTheCheeseNicholsonJohannesClimacus
  3/22/16 5:41pm
  Somewhat ironically, a lot of VC capital comes from pension funds, which these teachers can soon look forward to not having.
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  KinjaNinjaOnABinjaJohannesClimacus
  3/22/16 5:45pm
  As a fat bearded Google engineer, all I have to say is that you have a very interesting xHamster search history.
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alaskagrownHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:50pm
Ten-year teaching vet in Oakland here. Take-home pay after taxes $2850/month. Rent went from $1850 for a 2-bed to $3,050 from one month to the next. Had to scramble to find housing and move in the middle of the school year. Want to live alone? Too bad. Want to pay student loans, or own a car, or have a child? You can maybe pick two of those, if you’re lucky.

What isn’t mentioned is the gridlock and pollution caused by all us poors moving out to the *slightly* more affordable spots in San Leandro, Hayward, etc, and then driving in every morning.

Thanks for bringing more attention to it. It’s happening in cities all over the place, but it seems to particularly squeeze us here.
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  U Drive a Camryalaskagrown
  3/22/16 6:27pm
  As a spouse of a newer teacher I am saddened to see how little teachers are paid to teach and nurture society’s next generation of people. My wife has a Bachelors in Child Adoloscent Development, a Masters in Education, and her California provisional credential which will become a CLEAR credential after this school year. For all that schoolwork she makes 48k a year plus good benefits at a private school in Southern California and she is one of the lucky ones!
  
  Part of it is economics (new teacher supply far outstrips demand) which keeps salaries low. My wife’s Masters program (at a California State University) had a graduation class of 100 but less than ten (including my wife) have found work as full time teachers. Add in seniority/tenure in the public school systems which is a double sword and you get another reason for depressed wages.
  
  The other problem is that teachers are not willing to go where the jobs are whether through choice or personal circumstances. My wife was getting job offers for public school systems in Blythe and the High Desert but then it meant having to move out there....
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  e30s2kalaskagrown
  3/22/16 6:45pm
  But hey, haven’t you heard? Each google bus takes 100 cars off the road!
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Darius Miles in "The Perfect Score"Hamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:38pm
I wonder what will happen when (not really if, I don’t think) the Bay Area truly gets too expensive for all of the groups of people Hamilton lists to live anywhere near there. I can’t imagine there’s actually a precedent for “no one who works a service job can afford to live within 50 miles of their job.”
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  Maj. MalfunctionDarius Miles in "The Perfect Score"
  3/22/16 6:29pm
  I think the Silicon Valley elite are already on the case, and their solution is automation. Make all the little people redundant.
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  ThinThisHerdMaj. Malfunction
  3/22/16 7:26pm
  This is so true. I am curious what they will do when a pipe bursts or the grid goes down. An app can’t fix that.
  
  Here are a group of people who a few decades ago were the freaks and geeks that swore revenge on the jocks/Wall Street dudes for being douchebags. Now some of them fall under the same “bro” attitude. Amazing how money can corrupt the soul no matter what the field or how meek they were.
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╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯< Woke and BokeHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:39pm
When I was mayor, I would often sleep in my office or in a little apartment I had next to my office, or in the boiler room at City Hall, or under a bench at NP Square, or on the subway. The point is that I never complained about not having a place to sleep, because I was high all the time. These teachers, who get more take home pay than I did as mayor (certainly after provincial, municipal and dealer taxes were deducted) should stop complaining about lack of housing, poor pay, school overcrowding, wealth gap, Dodger fans, corporate control of the city and state governments, etc., and instead should go out and get high every day. It’s the only way to make a difference.
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  HeyEinstein!╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯< Woke and Boke
  3/22/16 7:09pm
  Next you’re gonna tell us that you were Lord Mayor Cuck, too.
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  ╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯< Woke and BokeHeyEinstein!
  3/22/16 7:12pm
  Christer, what’s in the water down there today? You’re about the fourth or fifth person to mention cuck today! Something on your mind, America?
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creamcheesekingHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:38pm
They day they build apartment buildings for teachers is the day I own a bar next to the apartments for teachers.

GIF

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  NewYorkCyniccreamcheeseking
  3/22/16 6:21pm
  www.teachers-village.com
  
  Have fun in...Newark.
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  ThinThisHerdNewYorkCynic
  3/22/16 7:20pm
  Wow. As someone who did a clinic at UMDNJ, this is just wild. I know they are trying to renaissance Newark, but this is making it look like it is some happening New Orleans type shit. No. No it is not.
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tito_swinefluHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 6:41pm
This EXACT story came out in one of the local papers here in SF in 98 or 99. I don’t have a lexis account, so I can’t look it up, but it’s not new. It’s a travesty that teachers can’t live in SF, but it’s a travesty that has been going on and well reported for a good 18 years, including the suggestion that the city build housing projects for teachers.
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  LlamasisCooltito_swineflu
  3/22/16 6:56pm
  Seriously. I read the headline and thought “No shit, Sherlock.”
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  Cam/rontito_swineflu
  3/22/16 8:05pm
  Indeed, it’s also been an ongoing problem in Santa Clara County for nearly 20 years. San Jose’s infamous “Jungle” homeless camp was mostly made up of employed people.
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Cam/ronHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:47pm
And when you’re done with that, please build affordable housing for the firefighters, cops, sanitation workers, retail employees, restaurant workers, janitors, social workers, nurses, carpenters, roofers, and all of the other lower-or-middle-class people who are necessary to keep your city running but do not make enough money to live there.

Most of those workers have typically live in neighboring cities that aren’t booming (Daly City was a bedroom community for many SFPD officers and SF firefighters for several decades). My question is if those cities also face affordable housing shortages.

OT: It’s nice to see my mom’s alma mater of Mission High posted here. She was classmates with Carlos Santana there back in the 60's. His garage band once played a school talent show and my mom recalled they sucked.
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  cheerful_exgirlfriendCam/ron
  3/22/16 5:54pm
  OT: my bio mom worked for Santana and is mentioned in the liner notes.
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  John C. CalhounCam/ron
  3/22/16 8:55pm
  Ha. You think HamNo knows what Daly City is? You think he knows what San Bruno is? (He probably heard about it once when the gas main exploded.) You think he’s aware South San Francisco is it’s own municipality? Maybe he’s aware of all this, but it’s unlikely, because his posts on this subject are WOEFULLY short on addressing the biggest problem with adding housing in the Bay Area, which is that there are so many damn towns and cities involved.
  
  HamNo isn’t advocating that New York solve its affordability crisis by making Manhattan denser, because that would be really fucking stupid, so why does he insist San Francisco shoulder this problem? Perhaps it’s the only workable way forward, but there’s a very real possibility that making SF significantly denser — say, up to a residential population of 2 million — wouldn’t really push prices down because there would still be crazy demand to live there. Worse, it could make it into an entirely different type of city than the one so many people want to live in now by, among many changes, straining public services through the sheer crush of people. I mean, people hate Muni now. What are they going to think of it when there are 2 million people living in the city? That won’t magically solve itself.
  
  The “best” solution would be to attack the housing problem regionally, with local governments from Gilroy to Santa Rosa (If you’re reading, HamNo, those are cities south and north of the Bay Area) cooperating on density and transportation and other infrastructure issues, because in reality people cross those borders all the time without even thinking about them, but the local governments still operate selfishly and with their own petty interests in mind.
  
  For example, there’s little reason, say, Millbrae couldn’t be quite a bit denser. But those people bought their houses thinking they were living in a suburb. Try and tell those folks that within a few years their town will be a mini-city. Obviously, they’ll be non-plussed; incumbents aren’t inherently wrong and stupid for having certain interests. But for the sake of the whole Bay Area, there’s ought to be a kind of reckoning where towns like Millbrae willingly end up denser so that SF can be more available to more people.
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gramercypoliceHamilton Nolan
3/22/16 5:59pm
All throughout the Bay Area, cities are discussing where the hell all their schoolteachers are supposed to live.

They’re not supposed to live. They’re supposed to teach. If you were a genius living in Silicon Valley, you would know that already. Then again, if you were a school kid in Silicon Valley, you’d be learning from a teacher who has to live in a van parked on the side of Route 84 on the way to La Honda, and you’d listen to your parents talking about how the delays in consumer adoption of Virtual Reality is just like Kristallnacht.
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