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ww1383Andy Cush
3/18/16 11:40am
If you close Rikers, people will die in one of NYC other fine jailing institutions. Can we just stop locking people up for stupid shit. If you were willing to let the guy back on the street for $750 just let him go and have him come back for his trial. Just shutting down Rikers to put up more condos helps no one.
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  Tohru Adachi Returns From Tartarusww1383
  3/18/16 11:44am
  But think of how much you could get per square foot for those “loft-style” units!!
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  Avaya16ww1383
  3/18/16 11:45am
  This. Close it, burn it, move every inmate to a personal jail with kind guards.
  
  Destroying the house of horrors doesn’t prevent the horrors from happening elsewhere.
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BackToFrontTheTaintYearsAndy Cush
3/18/16 1:13pm
I’m not sure I see the problem...He committed a crime, had a rather low bail, then killed himself. Who do you want to blame this time? Jeez gawker with anyone ever be responsible for their own actions, oh yea, only white people, I forgot, my bad. He made a choice to kill himself, his bad!
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  sdmikevBackToFrontTheTaintYears
  3/18/16 1:31pm
  You’re an asshole. Try having some fucking empathy and some understanding of the so-called “justice system”.
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  NicoBackToFrontTheTaintYears
  3/18/16 1:40pm
  He didn't kill himself on his own time, he killed himself while a ward of the state. Hold your government to higher standards d1ckweed.
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PLEASE STAND BYAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:33am
Munoz had a history of mental health issues, the New York Daily News reports. In a previous stay, he attempted suicide so seriously that he required a breathing tube to recover. Despite this history, he was not given any special supervision upon his entry to Rikers.

Horrible tragedy. While they can never get their son back (which I assume they’d much rather have), they can now at least separate NY from a few million.

Maybe, just maybe, if these incidents happen enough and the lawsuits are common enough, they’ll go and do something about it.
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  lena dunhams boobsPLEASE STAND BY
  3/18/16 11:37am
  They are trying now and doing it the right way to boot. The committee working on closing the jail has barred the Mayors office, and more importantly, the Corrections union from even speaking at the meetings.
  
  This is important as part of the only reason Rikers is as bad as it’s become is thanks to the corrections union keeping it open so their guys don’t have to go to other systems or leave working in corrections.
  
  In part the jail simply exists to employee guys who were too stupid to even become cops.
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  Tohru Adachi Returns From TartarusPLEASE STAND BY
  3/18/16 11:38am
  Why would the cops care about the taxpayers having to shell out a few million?
  
  Take it out of the police pensions, if you want actual change.
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Middle Class White Liberal Male In His 20sAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:36am
I’ve been to jail for one night. In that one night, I saw more evil than in the entire rest of my life combined. Not from the others who were incarcerated, but from the correctional officers. You do not know what evil is until you have seen correctional officers perform their jobs.

By the end of my stay, I was about ten minutes away from freaking out and breaking down. The psychological torment is insane. It’s not just Rikers (though I’m sure that’s a particularly bad one). It’s our whole fucked system. No one I was in there with deserved to be tortured like that. It was depraved.
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  ummagummibearMiddle Class White Liberal Male In His 20s
  3/18/16 11:39am
  Details please? Sounds like a story worth telling.
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  Middle Class White Liberal Male In His 20summagummibear
  3/18/16 11:45am
  Not really. The only good part is that it was election day, 2012. I have my “I Voted!” sticker in my mugshot.
  
  I got picked up on a bench warrant for a failure to appear on a ticket I didn’t even know I had. The cop had been tailing me because I had my roommate’s brother in the car, and they had a lot of run-ins with him over the years. He ran my plates, saw my warrant, and took me to jail. Once inside, I was mocked, screamed at, physically abused, and generally made to feel as though I had no human dignity. All in 14 hours. Nobody would tell me what was going on or how long I would be there. Any questions I asked were met with further abuse. Nothing will make you hate like that will. To this day, I will never speak with a law enforcement official, and I wish nothing but harm upon them.
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Sir VivorAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:46am
A dead slave is a useless slave. I’m amazed American prison industry hasn’t given that fact some serious thought.
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  helgaperezSir Vivor
  3/18/16 12:37pm
  We have an excess of laborers. Robots will make more and more jobs obsolete. We already have people condemning poor people for reproducing at all. The slaves are replaceable, and it’s always possible to criminalize new segments of the population by increasing fines and jailing people when they can’t pay, or by passing laws that make previously legal behavior illegal.
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Low Information BoaterAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:43am
What's the ideal solution to Rikers? A new detention facility, staffed by the same people? The DOC needs to be gutted and rebuilt from the ground up. Anything else is just moving the problem around without actually fixing it.
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  Cherith CutestoryLow Information Boater
  3/18/16 12:59pm
  Bail reform first and foremost.
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IkerCatsillasAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:44am
on the useless brutality of the american bail system:

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ImjustacavemanAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:33am
So his family and friends refused to make bail as well? I wonder how many times he's been arrested.
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  WildNightsWildNightsImjustacaveman
  3/18/16 11:42am
  It’s entirely possible that they couldn’t help. You’d be surprised how many people don’t have anyone in their life who can scrape together $750 on short notice.
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  ImjustacavemanWildNightsWildNights
  3/18/16 11:45am
  Would that be 75 for a bail bondsmen?
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CoreyClaytonAndy Cush
3/18/16 12:06pm
How about not stealing a cell phone from a customer at Dunkin Donuts? Just a thought...
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  NicoCoreyClayton
  3/18/16 1:51pm
  That has nothing to do with the situation. Yea, the guy broke the law, yea, the guy needs to be punished, but it’s supposed to be “innocent until proven guilty” not “guilty until you can fork over $750". Also, when someone is a ward of the state the state has an obligation to keep them safe, if they don't want to do that they need to release these people with a ticket to appear in court. Don't forget about the kid who sat in rikers for... 6 months?... waiting for trial because he couldn't afford bail and was then found innocent. This is a problem, and the solution isn't "fuck anyone charged with a crime."
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ShyWicklowAndy Cush
3/18/16 11:36am
A lot of NYC is a brutal, dangerous place. Should we shut it down, too?
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  Masshole JamesShyWicklow
  3/18/16 11:43am
  Yes.
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  ThrumbolioMasshole James
  3/18/16 12:08pm
  I’m down with it.
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