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    darleeeeeene aka deraaiilleeeeeeneJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:04am

    Holy fuck...but you know, having guns is the most important thing...

    I’m going to make a bumper sticker “you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead toddler’s hands”

    This poor family. I hope that grandfather lives a long fucking time with this

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      WasSheAGreatBigFatPerson_SheWasABigGirldarleeeeeene aka deraaiilleeeeeene
      2/08/16 11:08am

      I'd buy that bumper sticker.

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      darleeeeeene aka deraaiilleeeeeeneWasSheAGreatBigFatPerson_SheWasABigGirl
      2/08/16 11:09am

      R U MY ONE TRUE LOVE? I'm just an American Girl looking for my Buffalo Bill

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    LaComtesseJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:08am

    God fucking damnit.

    Look, I’m speaking as a parent here: toddlers are BASICALLY already suicidal because they have no concept of consequences. It took weeks to get it through my son’s head that the road is a dangerous place to play. My daughter once took an empty (clean) bottle of kitchen cleaner out of our recycling bin and started “drinking” it (she def would have done the same if it had been full). Let’s not make this easier for them by leaving loaded weapons around. This isn't difficult. This isn't even crazy helicopter parent childproofing. This is something any semi-rational person would inderstand.

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      saltyladyv4LaComtesse
      2/08/16 11:39am

      Absolutely. The only way to keep them safe is to make their environment safe. Unfortunately, I think a lot of old-school types instead believe that good ole fashioned parenting means attempting to “teach” a two year old various things, like not to touch glass stuff, and probably not to touch guns. They’re the ones running around behind some poor kid yelling NO and slapping their hands all the time, and they’re like he’s gotta learn! And you’re like, why don’t you just move the vase until such time as that kid has any degree of common sense or impulse control?

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      grapesIickLaComtesse
      2/08/16 11:47am

      Indeed. Survival skills are severely lacking for oh, years and years.

      And I’ll add that, while they do better at laying off the blatantly suicidal stuff once they’re post-toddlerhood, kids don’t have the restraint to be trusted around a carelessly laid out loaded gun for many more years. I’ve heard NRA types blather on about how all kids need is to be instilled with enough family values and “personal responsibility!” and they’ll be fine with any number of loaded guns, but I don’t buy it for a minute. It’s simple neuroscience.

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    NetflixandNapJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:02am

    How many times does this have to happen? Is there some sort of acceptable number of dead children that I don't know about? I feel awful for everyone involved.

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      CJflyingfishNetflixandNap
      2/08/16 11:10am

      I feel bad for the kids. And for the doctors and nurses who treated the girl but could not save her.

      I don’t feel bad for anybody else. I hope they all suffer unspeakable remorse till the day they die. They were warned. Not once. Hundreds of times. They ignored the warnings. Children paid the price.

      No hell is hot enough.

      That’s how I feel.

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      niiiicolaNetflixandNap
      2/08/16 11:14am

      There is no number of dead children that will change anything. Sandy Hook proved that.

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    Pontypool's #1 DJJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:07am

    Forget leaving the gun lying around for a moment... Is it crazy to think it should take more force than a 3 year old can muster to fire a gun?

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      Stig-a-saw-us wrecks loves nuclear power.Pontypool's #1 DJ
      2/08/16 11:10am

      Trigger pulls aren’t that hard. It’s not supposed to be like curling a 20lb barbell.

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      Pontypool's #1 DJStig-a-saw-us wrecks loves nuclear power.
      2/08/16 11:12am

      I know they aren’t hard but they should be.

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    MudbudJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 10:59am

    The grandfather had left the loaded gun on the nightstand not knowing his grandchildren were coming over that day, he said.

    Was he waiting for a bad guy with a gun to walk on his lawn? Fucking responsible gun owners never seem to be that responsible.

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      crowmollyMudbud
      2/08/16 11:05am

      If you leave a firearm where a kid can easily get it, you are the bad guy with the gun.

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      darleeeeeene aka deraaiilleeeeeenecrowmolly
      2/08/16 11:07am

      Everyone thinks they are the good guy with a gun...assholes

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    MissAndryJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:03am

    SO MANY RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS EXERCISING THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO BE NEGLIGENT WITH THEIR WEAPONS AND KILL CHILDREN. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

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      MayotonillaMissAndry
      2/08/16 11:23am

      I follow “Moms demand action for gun sense in America” and “The Brady Campaign” on Facebook. Those pages post about every toddler and youth shooting. This is a common occurrence, very very common.

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      MissAndryMayotonilla
      2/08/16 2:58pm

      Ya that’s my point.

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    BrandonJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 10:58am

    if only this good 9 year old was armed, they could protect themselves from all these bad 3 year old degenerate criminals.

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      billy-quizboyBrandon
      2/08/16 11:03am

      Cheesy Petes. I want to go straight for the cheap laffs; it’s the only thing keeping me from morbid depression over the regularity of things like this.

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      Brandonbilly-quizboy
      2/08/16 11:04am

      you and me both brotha. sometimes humor is the ONLY medicine. :-/

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    scowly brow spinsterJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:03am

    Fun fact:

    In 2015, for the first 45 consecutive weeks, toddlers found a gun and shot someone at least once per week. I am not sure how the rest of the year turned out.

    Once more for emphasis: for the first 45 consecutive weeks of 2015, a toddler shot someone with a gun.

    And it’s hardly ever the idiot who left the gun handy to a toddler that gets shot.

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      Reg Tidswellscowly brow spinster
      2/08/16 11:11am

      How can you drop that kind of data under the heading ‘fun fact’? Is the urge to use popular internet parlance *that* irresistable?

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      scowly brow spinsterscowly brow spinster
      2/08/16 11:29am

      Violence in US culture has apparently rendered me callously sarcastic.

      You, on the other hand, are precious, Reg!

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    Citizen-KangJia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:15am

    This is going to sound cold, but I’m going to say it anyway: praying was never going to do anything meaningful for that child with that kind of injury. You know what would have saved this child? Having that firearm properly locked away when it wasn’t being used. We hear so often that a responsible gunowner could have prevented this type of thing. Well, all it takes is one time when you let your guard down (I’m giving the guy the benefit of the doubt that he doesn’t do this often). People can call this a tragic confluence of events; I call it tragic negligence. Any gun, not properly supervised or stowed away, is a dangerous gun. Having guns carried around all the time (CCW) by millions of people is inviting tragedy. I guess the only thing to do now is to wait for all the idiots who’ll comment about guns being akin to cars so have at it, America. We made this bed so I guess we just have to lie in it.

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      1llamarampage will write againCitizen-Kang
      2/08/16 11:19am

      Right. Grandma prayed, grandpa left a loaded gun lying around - I voted for a pro-gun-control Congressman. I’ve never met this family, I don’t even live in the same state, but I did 100x more to try to save their child than they did.

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      Citizen-Kang1llamarampage will write again
      2/08/16 11:21am

      The ONLY thing praying did in that situation is to make the grandfather feel a little bit better about how his negligence killed his granddaughter. People can parse it any way they want, but that is the crux of this situation. For the injured child? Nothing. She was dead the moment the grandfather decided it was too inconvenient to safely stow his firearm that day.

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    Stig-a-saw-us wrecks loves nuclear power.Jia Tolentino
    2/08/16 11:06am

    People, please lock up your firearms. Mine are safely locked behind biometric and combination cabinets. Especially if there are children present in your home. Gun cabinets/safes aren’t that expensive. Especially a handgun safe.

    Repeated shit like this is what makes the world give major shade to firearms owners.

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      MissAndryStig-a-saw-us wrecks loves nuclear power.
      2/08/16 11:12am

      It’s insane HOW EASY it is to safely store your weapons. We have had guns in our house my whole life and not once have I, or any of my siblings, ever just “come across” one. You can buy a gun safe at Costco for much less than the actual firearm costs you. And there’s no reason to keep the gun loaded when you can load the magazine and keep it separately right next to it. That alone would prevent small children from being able to use it, as I’m assuming a 3 year old doesn’t know how to load a mag. If you really know how to use your firearm, you know how to put the mag in within 2 seconds, so you can still get to it easily in the highly unlikely scenario that you need to use it fast.

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      KK4BamaStig-a-saw-us wrecks loves nuclear power.
      2/08/16 11:15am

      But then how am I supposed to get out my gun in enough time to kill an intruder?

      /s

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