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    TheDrDonna, Paid Shillary Killinton SupporterNico Lang
    1/11/16 3:18pm

    I’m so damn tired of the “bathroom argument”. It’s illegal for anybody to molest, in any sense of the word, someone in a bathroom. There is not currently a magical force field that keeps out men (since this usually revolves around women’s bathrooms) that is going to be dismantled by allowing trans folks in. And no, “discomfort” does not trump the personal safety of trans people, no matter what you've heard. That's the same kind of bullshit that segregationists believed, and it's just as outdated.

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      Pontypool's #1 DJTheDrDonna, Paid Shillary Killinton Supporter
      1/11/16 3:26pm

      And don’t women’s bathrooms ALWAYS have stalls? I really couldn’t care less what the person in the stall next to me is doing and how they are doing it.

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      WrittenPyramidsTheDrDonna, Paid Shillary Killinton Supporter
      1/11/16 3:27pm

      In addition to everything you said, it also literally makes no sense, since we are talking about places with stalls, right? Is the sink area an inherently more vulnerable area than anywhere else (outside of transwomen being harassed for just being there)? Has that been explained?

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    dengeatseggdropNico Lang
    1/11/16 3:20pm

    My daughter is transgender. She’ll be 4 (yes, four) on Wednesday. What has been fascinating to me so far is watching how unconditionally accepting children are of her transition (we made the pronoun and name change this fall) and how the only problems we’ve had are from adults.

    The article is quite right. Once society digs its teeth of expectation into you, it is hard to break free. Before then however, it is amazing to see how free and happy people truly are.

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      botticellilovedengeatseggdrop
      1/11/16 3:23pm

      You sound like a truly awesome parent! Kudos :)

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      dengeatseggdropbotticellilove
      1/11/16 3:27pm

      She’s an incredible girl.

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    194AngeIlStreetNico Lang
    1/11/16 2:57pm

    he was called everything from a “demon abomination” to a “child molester,” to his face.

    Awe, just like Christ would have done! Bless their hearts for hating out loud.

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      TheDrDonna, Paid Shillary Killinton Supporter194AngeIlStreet
      1/11/16 3:20pm

      It's like they read the parable of Christ and the blind beggar and stopped at the part where Jesus threw mud and spit in his eyes.

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      ad infinitum194AngeIlStreet
      1/11/16 7:31pm

      Someone recently responded to a comment I made about how the stories about early Christians being thrown to lions and so forth are myths by saying something like, “I should have known you faggots and cunts on Gawker couldn’t go for a single post without lying about Christians.” I was deeply impressed by his Christ-like demeanor!

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    AnastraceNico Lang
    1/11/16 4:10pm

    As a transwoman, I can definitely attest to society being more of a danger to us. When I was 24, I had my knees shattered as well as a few ribs, because some guys who were hitting on me, realized my “deception” as they called it. Not only were 3 guys working me over with a bat, and kicks, but there had to have been at least 20 people around. The cops in Littleton decided to do jack and shit. I swear whenever I left denver proper to go anywhere else, shit got real. Even 12 years later, I still occasionally get shit. Not nearly as much as when I was in that transition process, but it does happen. I had an incident in my late 20s where I went to the bathroom, and when I came out security was waiting for me. Apparently someone in the bathroom at the club I was at, called security because a guy was in the bathroom. They checked my license, which has my correct gender and they said everything was in order, and apologized. About that moment, I got hit on the back of the head from a thrown bottle. The security guards went after that person, who had y’know actually committed a crime.

    All I can say is that we experience a tremendous amount of harassment, we are very, very vulnerable to crime seeing as most cops write it off, If you are ever raped, like I was, prepare to have the cops constantly harass you, and call you a prostitute. Best part of it all? Well, if the incredibly high suicide rate doesn’t get you, you have a 1 in 12 chance of being murdered! Oh wait, if you are a person of color who is trans, it’s 1 in 8. Wow, doesn’t that sound great? I mean, between suicide and straight up murder, at least I know I don’t have to worry about my retirement, just my life insurance. Now, I need to go and get a drink, because these stories affect me deeply. As for any harassment that I’m sure will come my way, I’d like to just take a moment, and tell you that if you have some hateful or harassing comment, to please take that, turn it sideways and shove it right up your ass.

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      tinfoilhattieAnastrace
      1/11/16 5:20pm

      Welcome to womanhood, right?

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      Star Trek Book of Oppositestinfoilhattie
      1/11/16 6:44pm

      Cis woman here. Gonna say nope to your equation of OP’s experiences with womanhood generally. 1. I’ve dealt with some fucked up shit from cops, and from men, but nothing remotely resembling what she experienced. There’s no danger of me getting brutally beaten by a group of men for the crime of being hit on while not being born with a vagina, because I am a woman who was born with a vagina. 2. The statistics she lists refer to trans PEOPLE, not trans women specifically. Trans men are vulnerable in ways that cis women are not.

      Anastrace, you are a baller, and your stories fill me with hot hot rage. Snuggles.

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    botticelliloveNico Lang
    1/11/16 3:13pm

    Once more, with feeling:

    Replying to a troll brings them out of the grays. Please don’t feed the trolls.

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      Cestrumnocturn1botticellilove
      1/11/16 7:12pm

      Yep, folks. Flag and dismiss. Flag and dismiss.

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    BurnUnitNico Lang
    1/11/16 3:20pm

    Wait, people believe that trans people are a danger to society?

    You know what is a danger to society? Racoons.

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      underemploidNico Lang
      1/11/16 3:09pm

      Trans People Do Not Endanger Society the Way Society Endangers Trans People

      I can’t imagine a more quantitatively true headline.

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        IAMRU2underemploid
        1/11/16 10:39pm

        “Trans People Do Not Inherently Endanger Society At All, While Society Continues To Pose Massive Danger to Trans People”.

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      AndiNico Lang
      1/11/16 3:19pm

      States like California have banned the “panic” defense

      This should be “California is the only state to have banned the “panic” defense”. Because it is the only state to have done so. 49 others still allow that defense to be used.

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        SnarkasticAndi
        1/11/16 3:27pm

        Didn’t even know that was a thing until today. Makes my stomach turn.

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        nightobeisanceAndi
        1/11/16 5:27pm

        Irrelevant to the original discussion but interesting as a comparative side note perhaps:

        Canada has only recently modified the provocation defenses available, making it very difficult to effectively use them for anything other than cases where the victim committed a serious felony. I’m looking forward to the inevitable test, because it should have some teeth compared to where we were. I’m a bit ashamed that I thought we’d modified this years ago...

        Australia has been slowly modifiying its laws regarding Homosexual Advance Defense, with 4 of its states removing or modifying their laws to remove non-violent sexual advances as provocation. Victoria has modified its laws several times.

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      RubySububiNico Lang
      1/11/16 5:00pm

      ... church members have threatened to have him evicted from his apartment, kidnap him, beat him, rape him, and murder him.

      Church members. Just let that sink in for a moment. And then scream with rage.

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        Cestrumnocturn1RubySububi
        1/11/16 7:13pm

        What Would Jesus Threaten?

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      MalcireNico Lang
      1/12/16 12:27am

      “the American Psychiatric Association only declared that being transgender would no longer be classified as a disorder in 2012"

      I’m a bit confused by this. Everything I can find says that Gender Dysphoria is still a diagnosis in the DSM-5 which came out in 2013.

      Is something different GD? I was under the impression that GID in the DSM IV was essentially synonymous with being transgendered.

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        OceaniccornMalcire
        1/12/16 4:24am

        The difference is in semantics. Previously gender dysphoria was the disease, now its a treatable symptom(with having a body that’s the wrong sex considered the disease)

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