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    KaidogBrendan O'Connor
    12/09/15 10:19pm

    California’s labor laws are über strong.

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      Kanye2020Kaidog
      12/09/15 10:34pm

      Shouldn’t matter. I can’t imagine the FAA not preempting here.

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      YoSup is in League with the Raccoon MenaceKanye2020
      12/09/15 11:27pm

      Ninth Circuit precedent currently says it doesn’t. So SCOTUS will probably do another intervention.

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    The Alvin Greene DreamBrendan O'Connor
    12/09/15 10:25pm

    “As employees, drivers would lose the personal flexibility they value most—they would have set shifts, earn a fixed hourly wage and be unable to use other ride-sharing apps,”...

    And, instantly, nobody will drive for you anymore! Go ahead, do it!

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      shelwoodThe Alvin Greene Dream
      12/10/15 12:59pm

      I mean, none of that is true unless Uber decided that they wanted to start doing that. After all, the court is set to determine whether what they are doing now makes their workers employees. If the answer is yes, then Uber doesn’t change anything to treat their employees as “employees” except have to provide them with benefits. Making all those changes would just be a dick move by Uber (which I believe is their business model).

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    ARP2Brendan O'Connor
    12/09/15 9:57pm

    SCOTUS has been loathe to 2nd guess arbitration agreements in the past, but there may be something specific under California v. Federal law.

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      ImmoralMinorityARP2
      12/09/15 11:38pm

      Federal law on arbitration (FAA) preempts contrary state law. They would have had to show that the agreements were unconscionable or coerced.

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      YoSup is in League with the Raccoon MenaceImmoralMinority
      12/10/15 12:03am

      Contrary to public policy is the argument here, actually. The argument is that the PAGA claims are technically qui tam actions and so can’t be waived.

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    dvdoffBrendan O'Connor
    12/09/15 9:46pm

    Uh-oh! How will noted scumbag Travis Kalanick buy his way out of this one? I ask becuase once those rates go up to allow the drivers a real wage, watch that bullshit valuation go right down the tubes.

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      filthynipplesBrendan O'Connor
      12/09/15 11:05pm

      I hope that guy who maced the Taco Bell idiot gets some sort of money judgment that he can sell to J.G. Wentworth.

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        commentsectionBrendan O'Connor
        12/10/15 1:30am
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          Talgrathcommentsection
          12/10/15 4:19pm

          Not many will get this, but it deserves more stars.

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        GeorgeGeoffersonLivesBrendan O'Connor
        12/10/15 12:22am

        Hey, I’m trying to open my notifications just logging in, now, and seeing this message:

        401 / You must have an account to access this page.

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          DoribaxBrendan O'Connor
          12/09/15 11:21pm

          That’s weird, I’m an employee of a large health system. I don’t have set shifts - I can sign up for the ones I want. My pay varies on my productivity and how many patients I see. I can moonlight on my off time.

          Strangely enough, I have employee health insurance, 401K, disability and term life and other benefits. It's like Uber is full of shit.

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            Volante3192Brendan O'Connor
            12/09/15 10:01pm

            And, as far as those Wall Street geniuses are concerned, Uber’s worth more than Ford, GM or Honda.

            The sooner reality sets in the better.

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              Uncle-Remus-reaming-fetusBrendan O'Connor
              12/09/15 9:58pm

              I have to agree with Uber on this one. Uber offers something to its employees that many other companies don’t offer- time. It’s a great place to work for people who want to do art, start a business, take more walks, focus on their health, lower their stress. If employees want more security, there are plenty of other jobs in the service industry where they can apply.

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                YoSup is in League with the Raccoon MenaceUncle-Remus-reaming-fetus
                12/09/15 10:29pm

                You are literally calling them employees when Uber’s entire argument is that they are not employees.

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