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    LordBurleighAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:23pm

    Anybody who uses the phrase “sovereign citizen” lacks even basic comprehension of both the words that compose it.

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      JamesLawhorneLordBurleigh
      11/30/15 2:25pm

      Or maybe a sovereign citizen simply recognizes what it means to truly be free. So few do these days.

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      toothpetardLordBurleigh
      11/30/15 2:26pm

      many photos of himself with guns


      It’s important for our freedoms that well-regulated people like this can continue to jump to securing liberties for us at a moments’ notice.

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    GeorgeGeoffersonLivesAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:33pm

    However, it seems just as likely that whoever pulled the trigger did so out of racist fear at being confronted by a real-live black person, not some sinister plot.

    Because that makes this somehow better, right? I mean, the injured should feel better that they were shot out of racist fear instead of racist bravado/bravery, right?

    What the fuck is this even? Not a sinister plot? The fuck?

    Really, stop trying to remove agency. He went looking for trouble by bringing a gun to a peaceful protest, started the trouble, and now he’s going to prison. He was not shot, nor could he have reasonably feared that he would be at a fucking peaceful protest.

    He wasn’t scared enough not to try and go provoke violence, was he? They filled up their tanks after contemplating whether this would be a good idea or not, and decided against better judgement. It’s not as if they were home in the suburbs and the protests came down their street. These fuckers made a concious effort to drive in from the burbs to go start shit with protestors.

    Stop stepping on your own dick all the time, Gawker.

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      Cyber Mind GrrlGeorgeGeoffersonLives
      11/30/15 2:39pm

      He’s going to prison for shooting up a peaceful protest full of black people. Yeah I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that he’s going to be a REAL item over in genpop.

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      benjaminalloverGeorgeGeoffersonLives
      11/30/15 2:42pm

      I don’t think that quote indicates an attempt at diminishing his agency or legitimizing his fear. I think it’s an attempt to distinguish the online echo chamber from the real actual world as contexts for his totally irrational fear.

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    KyuzoAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:23pm

    I find it interesting that the loudest chest-thumping, tough-guy, badass conservatives are actually complete wimps.

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      youjustkeepthinkingbutchKyuzo
      11/30/15 2:29pm

      Fascinating. Like all those preachers who engage in sex with minors or prostitutes. Irony, eh?

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      DuddyKravitzKyuzo
      11/30/15 2:33pm

      You do? This is one of the world’s great truths. Those who crow constantly about patriotism and freedom and crime and race-baiting and love guns are ALWAYS cowards. Always.

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    Thunder-LipsAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:37pm

    If you didn’t know, a Saiga is a russian and chinese built shotgun. It has the firing mechanism of an ak-47 except fires shotgun shells. The import of the gun from russia has been banned, but can still be imported from china. ‘Merica.

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      ToiletTapping2Thunder-Lips
      11/30/15 2:40pm

      And they are cheap! Freedom!

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      Thunder-LipsToiletTapping2
      11/30/15 2:43pm

      Shotgun shells are super cheap to, so when you absolutely have to kill every body in the room you can save a buck on ammo.

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    HellephantAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:31pm

    Pretty light charges for shooting up a crowd.

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      Well intentioned, but ultimately uselessHellephant
      11/30/15 2:35pm

      Nobody died, so it has perfectly sensible charging and sentencing guidelines that are above reproach and there's no need to change anything about all the modern laws we have on the books. Everything is fine.

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      whiplashhHellephant
      11/30/15 2:56pm

      They didn’t shoot up a crowd. They pretended to be part of the crowd, crowd assaulted and chased them away, then he shot so the crowd wouldn’t come any closer.

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    stevethecurseAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:46pm

    Why is there not a charge of attempted murder? He attacked people with an instrument designed to kill...doesn’t that stand to reason that he was trying to kill them? Now looking back, I rarely see charges of attempted murder being given out. Is there some reason I’m missing as to why the charge of attempted murder isn’t pursued more often?

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      burps25stevethecurse
      11/30/15 2:58pm

      you’d have to prove he was trying to kill, rather than just hurt or being reckless.

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      whiplashhstevethecurse
      11/30/15 2:58pm

      Yea, you have no clue what even happened there. Read about it first before you comment.

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    Fleur-de-litAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:34pm

    Suppressing legitimate protest is a weird impulse. The best case outcome of civil rights movements is that marginalized people stop being oppressed. Why would anyone oppose that?

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      1llamarampage will write againFleur-de-lit
      11/30/15 2:48pm

      Especially when the impulse springs up in the “I’m going to make full use of ALL my rights, especially the ones that allow me to act like a scary asshole” crowd. Like, okay, but the right to free assembly and speech comes first of ALL of them. It’s really super important. You desperately need to carry one thousand death machines at all times, but you’re mad that I want to stand here with other people and say some stuff?

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      flamingolingoFleur-de-lit
      11/30/15 3:13pm

      People who have a stake in maintaining a racist hierarchy in which their skin color confers many unfair economic, political, and social advantages to them. Racism is entirely rational for white people. What’s “weird” or unusual is when whites resist a system designed to benefit them.

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    ThenSAAndy Cush
    11/30/15 2:33pm

    The Mankato officer also told Minneapolis police that Scarsella was a “pro Constitution”

    Well, when he goes to prison, it won’t be stars that he is looking at.

    It will be bars!

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      MizJenkinsAndy Cush
      11/30/15 3:34pm

      Scarsella will be charged with five counts of second-degree assault with a dangerous weapon and one count of second-degree riot while armed...

      Section 609.17 Minnesota Statutes:

      609.17 ATTEMPTS.

      Subdivision 1. Crime defined.

      Whoever, with intent to commit a crime, does an act which is a substantial step toward, and more than preparation for, the commission of the crime is guilty of an attempt to commit that crime, and may be punished as provided in subdivision 4.

      Subd. 4. Penalties.

      Whoever attempts to commit a crime may be sentenced as follows:

      (1) if the maximum sentence provided for the crime is life imprisonment, to not more than 20 years...

      Section 609.185(a)(7) Minnesota Statutes:

      609.185 MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE.

      (a) Whoever does any of the following is guilty of murder in the first degree and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for life:

      (7) causes the death of a human being while committing, conspiring to commit, or attempting to commit a felony crime to further terrorism and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life.

      Section 609.714 Minnesota Statutes:

      609.714 CRIMES COMMITTED IN FURTHERANCE OF TERRORISM.

      Subdivision 1.Definition.

      As used in this section, a crime is committed to “further terrorism” if the crime is a felony and is a premeditated act involving violence to persons or property that is intended to:

      (1) terrorize, intimidate, or coerce a considerable number of members of the public in addition to the direct victims of the act; and

      (2) significantly disrupt or interfere with the lawful exercise, operation, or conduct of government, lawful commerce, or the right of lawful assembly.

      Section 609.71 Minnesota Statutes:

      609.71 RIOT.

      Subd. 2. Riot second degree.

      When three or more persons assembled disturb the public peace by an intentional act or threat of unlawful force or violence to person or property, each participant who is armed with a dangerous weapon or knows that any other participant is armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of riot second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both.

      Section 609.02 Minnesota Statutes:

      609.02 DEFINITIONS.

      Subd. 2.Felony.

      “Felony” means a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment for more than one year may be imposed.

      By my math if he’s guilty of 2nd degree rioting, he is guilty of attempted 1st degree murder in furtherance of terrorism. The Reddit history and text messages described above already seem sufficient to evidence his intent.

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        Unwitting BurritoMizJenkins
        11/30/15 4:10pm

        Terrorism for sure.

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      UngratefulDeadAndy Cush
      11/30/15 2:52pm

      God, I love how these guys set out to make BLM look bad in some capacity and ended up being phenomenal PR for the movement. You just know that is the part of this whole thing that actually bothers them.

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