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    LOREM IPSUMTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:10pm

    Nope, she didn’t draw it.

    Fun story: when I was in the second grade, I got an F on an art project because I didn’t color inside the lines. I yelled at the teacher “Picasso didn’t color inside the lines! Are you saying Picasso was a bad artist?” She changed my grade to a B. My drawing was still shit, though.

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      Margaret Jean PerflipisklupLOREM IPSUM
      11/28/15 3:14pm

      I feel like it’s a shame that in second grade, you were actually getting graded in terms of F vs. B. I think I got mostly check plus or check minus that young :-(

      But kudos on your well-reasoned argument!

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      LOREM IPSUMMargaret Jean Perflipisklup
      11/28/15 3:17pm

      It was a Catholic school. Logic does not apply.

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    SqarrTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:04pm

    Yeah, the facial features do not look like a five-year-old’s drawing.

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      PersistentBoehnerSqarr
      11/28/15 3:10pm

      But who drew it, then? [chilling music flares in background]

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      SqarrPersistentBoehner
      11/28/15 3:19pm
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    MEtheBarbarianTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:10pm

    It may have been a guided art project. I did self portraits with my class of 5 year older where I’d have 4 of them at a table with mirrors. I’d ask them to start by drawing the shape of their head. Then to look in the mirror and draw one thing at a time while saying stuff like “what shape are your eyes?” “What about your eyebrows?”. When kids are encouraged to really look and take their time vs scribbling their art improves.

    That being said, this one is suspicious. The mouth is way too perfect. The coloring does seem way more careful but thick dark sharpie may be hiding a lot. It also looks like it was done in pencil first so maybe the teacher helped outline/color. If so, boo to that.

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      SnookitinaMEtheBarbarian
      11/28/15 3:24pm

      I think you might be right. My son just did something like this in art class. He’s in 1st grade and brought home this really nice (for a 7 year old) self portrait. I asked him how he did it and he said they drew it very slow, one step at a time

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      CarnyAsadaMEtheBarbarian
      11/28/15 3:25pm

      ^^^^this.

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    anythingsweetieTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:30pm

    This may be what happens when your daughter is guided and encouraged to leave the all over colour fest. What we see as ‘scribbles’ is actually very controlled, and certainly in the second picture her colour choices are properly brilliant.

    My dad held up an enlargement of one of my drawings from when I was five at my wedding. I had no recollection of it. Basically it had a girl (me) with her game all together, chin up, walking around, owning everyone, and in the background there is a little boy over a woman’s knee being BEATEN and there’s this speech bubble and the woman is saying “NAUGHTY BOY.”

    It all came flooding back. Basically I was being bullied at school and decided at that early age that being fabulous was always going to be the best revenge.

    Also I have on my wall an enlargement of a portrait that my daughter did of me when she was 2 and it’s awesome and everyone comments on it even before they know who did it.

    So, to sum up, I’m a believer.

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      michaelmcdonaldisgodanythingsweetie
      11/28/15 4:52pm

      I was going to say, that second drawing has something about it that’s pretty good.

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      emacdaddyanythingsweetie
      11/28/15 4:53pm

      pics plz!!! :)

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    HarvestMoonTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:37pm

    Nope.

    Five year olds couldn’t fill in the dress so completely and neatly. Art teachers are all about ‘covering all the white space’.

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      Ladyheatherlee 2016 EditionHarvestMoon
      11/28/15 4:42pm

      Now I’m starting to wonder if my kids are some sort of geniuses because they definitely fill everything in. My older one is very precise and her colouring looked just like this in kindergarten. This kid has super neat printing. I think she’s just got really great fine motor skills. I maybe wouldn’t believe it if the printing was sloppy.

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      DonnaLHarvestMoon
      11/28/15 6:23pm

      I agree that it’s unlikely that the first picture was drawn by a five-year old without any help. This is something my son (who was reasonably “artistic” as a child and even won a prize for a painting he did later on in grade school) drew in kindergarten when he was five — it was supposed to represent Halloween, at least partly — and it looks way more like the second picture.

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    Still-Celia is NeverfuckingvotingforhillsxoTracy Moore
    11/28/15 4:28pm

    Yeah, that is a very nice and almost Picassoesque forge. I have an almost six year old and I like his pictures but NFW. He drew this a month or two ago and I love it.

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      TeamFullFatBaconStill-Celia is Neverfuckingvotingforhillsxo
      11/28/15 5:22pm

      This is awesome!

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      Still-Celia is NeverfuckingvotingforhillsxoTeamFullFatBacon
      11/28/15 5:24pm

      I do love how it appears to be roaring.

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    a pet at my side god in the skyTracy Moore
    11/28/15 5:20pm

    Former art teacher here. That pic totally had help from art teacher. When I taught art to elementary school kiddos, the other art teacher’s students stuff always looked so much ‘better’ than my students’ work. For a long time I thought it was bc I was a bad teacher, over time tho, I realized the other teacher was ‘helping’ her students waaaay more than I was.

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      Bernda pet at my side god in the sky
      11/28/15 7:22pm

      I used to teach art (mostly ceramics) to kids at a very wealthy area art center. There was SO much pressure to have the kids produce ‘good’ work instead of figuring it out and having fun.

      It was horrible. Especially when parents would enroll their 7 year olds in wheel based ceramics, because their kid was ‘smart’. I don’t care how smart your seven year old is, the age is 10 because they have to weigh enough to fight the wheel. And because the kids never weighed enough to push back on the wheel, they NEVER got anything that looked even vaguely like a pot. I’d have to sit with the kid on my lap, while I threw the piece and the kid essentially felt what I was doing. I just wanted the kids to have fun experiencing clay and pottery. But nope. Had to have pieces that looked like a well studied adult made them.

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      a pet at my side god in the skyBernd
      11/28/15 8:07pm

      Damn helicopter parents. But man, I got a funny visual from that. And crap, I took wheel throwing for the first time at like 23 and I could barely control the clay then. I can’t believe 10 year olds can do that!

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    LaComtesseTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:41pm

    When will this article be adapted to a noir film? I very much feel that’s the direction this is moving in...

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      wafflesfriendsworkLaComtesse
      11/28/15 4:53pm

      Or the next season of Serial

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      LaComtessewafflesfriendswork
      11/28/15 8:44pm

      YES! And it was totally Don, Hae’s boyfriend!

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    DieselDamselTracy Moore
    11/28/15 4:59pm

    Blurg. This is why I love youth art teachers that encourage process over product. I help out in my daughter’s Kindergarten classroom and was put in charge of the turkey art craft. Little Liam made his turkey with one eye and one wing because he got in a fight. I fucking loved it. But the teacher rode my ass after the fact because he went rogue and “didn’t follow the directions.” I shrugged and said, “Well, you knew I was a Montessori teacher!”

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      TeamFullFatBaconDieselDamsel
      11/28/15 5:24pm

      Liam is going places. He sounds awesome.

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      megseigDieselDamsel
      11/30/15 1:52am

      Liam would be my hero in my art classes. If a kid goes off the directions a little its fine, as long as they can give me a pretty good justification. It could not be only because he didn’t feel like finishing the picture. If I can see that they still understood and mastered the objective, one eye and one wing is brilliant.

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    EldritchTracy Moore
    11/28/15 3:09pm

    My mom is a kindergarten teacher and this looks nothing like the drawings she brings home from children to grade. Considering what my mom tells me about how insane her school has gotten, I can fully believe a desperate teacher under the gun did this. I bet anything this is some money-making scheme from a tone-deaf, out of touch principal.

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      Project ArtichokeEldritch
      11/28/15 3:12pm

      If both our kindergarten teachers weren’t in their early 20s I would be sure your mom works at my school.

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      LinaEldritch
      11/28/15 6:56pm

      Silly question maybe but, why does a kindergarten teacher grade drawings? I’m Scandinavian and as far as my experience goes, nothing gets graded at those young years. Not criticizing btw, just genuinely curious :)

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