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    lissargh: still grey on the slotStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:17pm

    Ugh. It makes me so sad that innocent Muslim people are made to suffer because of terrorist attacks. There's a pretty large chance I'm at least distantly related to IRA or UVF members but there's no way I'd ever be punished like this for being of Irish descent.

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      AuntySocialitelissargh: still grey on the slot
      11/18/15 9:29pm

      Well, but those sunburns tho.

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      lissargh: still grey on the slotAuntySocialite
      11/18/15 9:38pm

      I wear sunscreen! I’ve been called a mick like three times but I don’t think that has anything to do with Irish terrorists and I’m still confused as to why that even happened.

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    Ginger Is A ConstructStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:55pm

    It’s terrifying to me that Islamaphobia has become even more pervasive and seemingly normalized in the past week. I live in a city with a massive Middle Eastern population, many Muslim students attend the high school where my SO teaches. He got a heart breaking email from one last night saying he would be seeing a new face in class because she has decided to stop wearing her hijab. She was worried he wouldn’t recognize her. They talked about it today and apparently she made the decision with her parents after 1) a woman SPIT ON HER MOTHER in a grocery store because she was wearing a hijab and 2) the student was out with a bunch of other students and her date on the way to a formal dance at the high school and the waiter at the restaurant was bringing everyone else their orders and extra things and being really polite, and was stone cold rude to her.

    I can’t IMAGINE the shitstorm that wold ensue if a single Christians in this country was spit on for wearing a crucifix or one of those dowdy Duggar skirts.

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      jinniGinger Is A Construct
      11/18/15 10:18pm

      Dearborn? Fremont?

      One of the reasons I was gobsmacked by the Michigan governor’s announcement that he would not allow refugees entry was that Michigan has (I believe) the largest Arab population in the nation. Or it may just be the area around Dearborn? If refugees are going to have relatives, that is a likely place. So short-sighted.

      ETA: and the history you recount is such an indictment on all of us. Really hard.

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      MelissamacheteGinger Is A Construct
      11/18/15 10:32pm

      Oh god, that is awful. Poor girl! I am an athiest and I often think WTF is wrong with people that I am defending religion and religious garb. I don't agree with any religion, but they have a right to exist! To wear what they feel is appropriate! Fuck off!

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    HelloSweetieStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:34pm

    First off, this is crap. At least Zara acted swiftly.

    I’m curious what the supposed rationale would even be for not allowing hijabs and other head coverings. i can understand not allowing face coverings, like banks do, but hijabs don’t cover the face. And her offering to wear a veil instead was weird to me, because, in my understanding, veils cover the face.

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      WinegreaterthanWhineHelloSweetie
      11/18/15 10:18pm

      Well shoplifting for one. Same reason some stores don’t allow women to bring in large bags, or require them to be checked at the front of the store.

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      jinniWinegreaterthanWhine
      11/18/15 10:25pm

      That makes sense. I know that whenever I am tempted to shoplift, I think: well, if only I had somewhere on my head to put this.

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    AllieCat ❤️'S hats on cats-is probable weirdoStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:18pm

    Okay so now we CAN’T dress our children up as adorable holocaust victims and then play death camp with all the neighborhood kids?? And I SHOULDN’T embroider swastikas all over my clothing but say that it’s just an old symbol unrelated to the nazis??????

    Hard to keep up with all the rules when they keep changing, PC police.

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      RandomHookupAllieCat ❤️'S hats on cats-is probable weirdo
      11/19/15 8:59am

      Folds up & puts away his freshly laundered white pointed hat and robe.

      Sigh...

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      Ken Yadiggit, AdiosRandomHookup
      11/19/15 9:18am

      Zara’s new line of white pointed hoods, now with intricate beading details along the trim! Be the snazziest bigot out there!

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    jinniStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:06pm

    And, for the record, her French is far and away more educated and refined than is his. IMHO.

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      boomchampionjinni
      11/18/15 9:11pm

      Suis d'accord, j'ai noté la même chose. The irony.

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      Katia82jinni
      11/18/15 10:05pm

      True she has a very nice way of speaking. What is his accent? Is he French? I can't tell

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    KendradicalStassa Edwards
    11/19/15 11:50am

    I dunno... There are a lot of stores that don’t allow any head coverings at all, and I can absolutely believe this store has a rule like that in place. I’m not jumping to any conclusions that this was based solely on the fact that they were discriminating against her for being Muslim; I’ve seen this rule in action too many times for things like hoodies and hats or even sunglasses. If it was them being racist, I’m glad they fired the employees. But if it wasn’t, and the employees were just acting on rules they were told they must follow by their higher-ups, then Zara firing them to “make themselves look good” is entirely fucked.

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      nosleepdreamsKendradical
      11/22/15 4:01pm

      Wow. Hijabs aren’t just like any head covering like “hoodies” (problematic in its own right) or sunglasses and comparing them to justify this act of clear discrimination is pretty outrageous. You are either a troll or someone completely oblivious to reality.

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      Kendradicalnosleepdreams
      12/01/15 11:30am

      For one, they are like them, because they are both head coverings. For two, I’m not justifying any racist actions.

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    John BoehnerStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:31pm

    Okay, people better educated in French law than I am: To what extent does France’s ban on hijab go, anyway? Is Zara within their legal rights to just be like “it’s federal law” or what?

    Edit: is the ban only for schools? Like I said I am a dumb.

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      Katia82John Boehner
      11/18/15 10:03pm

      Schools. Not sure if there is something for govt jobs as was proposed in Quebec. On the street you can where anything, even a niqab. I lived there in the aughts. You see lots of Arab / Muslim and west African (colourful, & big shouldered for the ladies) outfits in Paris.

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      OvdanyakadJohn Boehner
      11/18/15 10:57pm

      Totally had the same question

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    chritter is a nocturnal feminist mancatfishStassa Edwards
    11/18/15 9:23pm

    “The man in the video tells her that people with any head coverings, including hats and hoodies, aren’t allowed in the store.”

    One of those curiously targeted “rules.”

    “Anyone, either rich or poor, is forbidden from sleeping under bridges!”

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      AuntySocialiteStassa Edwards
      11/18/15 9:28pm

      This almost like politic. Make stupid girl head hurt with too much wording. Y no makeup tips or Kardashians?

      New Jezebel not living up to expectationz yet.

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        PoodletimeAuntySocialite
        11/19/15 8:24am

        Gosh. I hope this is a joke. I’m sure it is! Ha, ha (relieved laughter, followed by sinking feeling thinking about more fashion stories.) Le sigh.

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        Ken Yadiggit, AdiosAuntySocialite
        11/19/15 9:19am

        Jezebel 20% moar Kardashian

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      PitzerGrimmaceStassa Edwards
      11/18/15 10:35pm

      There will be tons of comments talking about how this reaction is normal because of (insert word salad here). But the short term feeling of safety that this bigotry in France and here in the States has consequences. Margainilization is the biggest push for those not raised in radicalized Muslim homes, Aka 99 percent, to start listening and be seduced by the draw of radical violent Islam. Now the fear is real, let’s not be closed minded to the trauma of life after events like this. However using that trauma as an excuse for bigotry runs absolutely counter to the reduction and dismantling of these terrorist groups. We need to come up with better strategies or at least more accepted strategies to counter the fear and move past the trauma these events cause. Refusing refugees and publicly demonizing a religion of billions based on the actions of thousands, will lead us to try and combat the violent radicalization of hundreds of thousands, and then millions.

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        hntergrenPitzerGrimmace
        11/19/15 1:10am

        There’s no dismantling of terror groups. There’s no end to this.

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        PitzerGrimmacehntergren
        11/19/15 1:44am

        But what there is an end to. The pool of margainilized young people who are being discriminated against by people in fear and by bigots. We can actually do something about the ease at which they are able to recruit.

        Yes terrorism is byproduct of humanity. Always has been. Doesn't mean we thrown our hands up and and give into bigots looking to sell books and religious extremists who can't see the Forrest through the trees.

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