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MeHateHeBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:39pm
If they knew it was a hospital, then it was a war crime.
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  Mortal DictataMeHateHe
  10/26/15 6:40pm
  But the ‘good guys’ can’t commit war crimes, or any crime for that matter. /s
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  dvdoffMeHateHe
  10/26/15 6:45pm
  The entire Iraq War was a war crime. What do we get from our military and elected officials who voted for that war: our bad?
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MaxBlanckeBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:50pm
Does the Taliban have a record of respecting western medical or Aid workers? This is not a snarky comment.
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  thenewcapMaxBlancke
  10/26/15 6:59pm
  I wouldn’t expect them to. I’d also expect them to have a dude planted in a hospital, using it to relay info since it’s not something that should be attacked.
  
  I don’t know how this whole thing about the hospital being controlled by Taliban = gunship airstrike. Controlling could mean, “they now own it and have killed/kicked everyone with DWB out” or it could mean, “they’re occupying it but DWB personnel are still inside.”
  
  Pretty sure it’s that last one.
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  Emerald D.V.MaxBlancke
  10/26/15 7:17pm
  Do you have a record of not beating your wife? This is not a snarky comment.
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Jerry-NetherlandBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:34pm
Military Intelligence: Still FUBAR after all these years.
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  Set Fire to the Room--do it now (fiends NOT friends)Jerry-Netherland
  10/26/15 7:47pm
  Personally, I find it comforting. Dependable, even. If you can’t trust military intelligence to be unreliable, what can you trust in this world?
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  JohnnyBravoJerry-Netherland
  10/27/15 10:58am
  But he had a really good hunch this time, come on! /s
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StanBrendan O'Connor
10/27/15 3:22am
It’s not clear to me why MSF should be so trusted in this regard, above professional Green Berets who were on the ground and taking fire.

MSF has a long track record of supporting Jihadi propaganda. Witness their reports this summer regarding last year’s Gaza operation: http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/09/27/doc…

Therefore, despite the apparent casualty toll, I would take MSF reports with a large grain of salt. We don’t have clear facts, only their testimony. MSF are chronically on the side of the “underdog,” i.e. terrorists as opposed to the USA, Israel or anyone in the West fighting the Jihad.
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  JohnStan
  10/27/15 7:20am
  Who cares about their opinions? There are facts, that the US fired on a hospital and civilians were killed. That’s that. But let’s argue that the god-like, infallible Green Berets did report firing. Don’t you think a AC-130 gun run was overkill? Even if there were Taliban ( which I highly doubt, doesn’t make fucking sense for Taliban to make their free healthcare a bloody target), that strike shouldn’t have been authorized
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  c'est-a-direJohn
  10/27/15 8:42am
  I really wouldn’t try using logic or empathy with this individual. They don’t appear susceptible to either of those things.
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Sean BrodyBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:52pm
On a macro level how possible is it that this is simply a massive ‘fuck you’ to MSF and ‘stay away from our fucking war’?

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X37.9XXSBrendan O'Connor
10/27/15 9:51am
According to the International Committee of the Red Cross Rules of Customary Humanitarian Law

Rule 35. Hospital and Safety Zones and Neutralized Zones
Rule 35. Directing an attack against a zone established to shelter the wounded, the sick and civilians from the effects of hostilities is prohibited.
Summary
State practice establishes this rule as a norm of customary international law applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts.
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ThatGuy0verThereBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:32pm
of all the shit we’ve done in the last 14 years, and as jaded as I’ve become, this whole thing fucked me up. And you know no one is going to get any sort of significant punishment. They’ll just keep hemming and hawing ‘til another batch of people get killed somewhere else and we forget about it.
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  Buck RogersThatGuy0verThere
  10/26/15 8:05pm
  Not sure about that. Typically in these situations a lower ranking FGO or CGO who was actually out in the field will be the sacrificial lamb for the politician appeasal even though the politicians are more too blame since they are the ones ordering the soldiers to blow shit up.
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TruthOrBias1Brendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:40pm
If the Taliban had control of the hospital, it still probably would have been a bad idea to try and “clear it” by shooting it.

-An Informed Human Being
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Mortal DictataBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:32pm
Don’t worry. Just like with drone strikes they’ll find at least one ‘fighting-age male’ in the rubble and immediately label him as some Taliban footsoldier who was singlehandedly holding an entire hospital hostage.

As a result this high-dosage of freedom will be entirely justified by the Pentagon.
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DuddyKravitzBrendan O'Connor
10/26/15 6:51pm
So if this is how the US military conducts itself, i.e. wiping out an entire hospital and killing dozens of innocent people, doctors, nurses, patients in a highly visible attack, it’s pretty easy to see how the leak released by The Intercept last week, wherein we are told that 9 of every 10 victims of drone strikes where the aftermath is less likely to be observed by media are innocent civilians, could easily be true.

Even if this part of the *most recent* narrative from the military is true, there are still questions such as the one raised in the article as to how/why the C-130 ended up attacking multiple times over the course of an hour. Still smells like BS.
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