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ChickenspearsAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:17pm
Am... I supposed to be outraged? Critical blood shortages across the board in hospital settings, offering low income offenders an “unorthodox” alternative (not forcing, from how I read it) to paying fines, if they didn’t receive said “credit” that’s one thing, but is this *that* bad? Not trolling btw, maybe I misinterpreted article.
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  SapphireChickenspears
  10/20/15 1:23pm
  I agree. With what I’ve seen from Last Week Tonight, this would solve two major problems in America: Blood shortage and criminalizing being poor.
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  Armageddon T. ThunderbirdChickenspears
  10/20/15 1:25pm
  Give blood or go to jail. If you think they’re not being forced, you didn’t really think about it.
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IAMBlastedBiggsLostBurnerAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:15pm
Good idea.

Really shitty execution of said idea.
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  Billy JackIAMBlastedBiggsLostBurner
  10/20/15 1:20pm
  They test the blood right?! Or supposed to at least, I mean "have you used drugs through a needle?" question is 50/50 here.
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  BlankensteinIAMBlastedBiggsLostBurner
  10/20/15 1:20pm
  I agree completely. I think barter opportunities for low-income people (heck, everyone), should definitely be given as payment for a fine. Blood drives, signing up as an organ donor, donating used clothes and/or furniture, non-perishable food items, whatever a community is in need of, would be great. Low level offenders for traffic tickets, jay-walking, etc. are able to actively support the community rather than pay a ticket. It just needs to be done in a way where it’s not “agree to have portions of your body removed or go to jail.”
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ReburnsABurningReturnsAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:24pm
Payment-due hearings like this one are part of a new initiative by Alabama’s struggling courts to raise money by aggressively pursuing outstanding fines, restitution, court costs and lawyer fees. Many of those whose payments are sought in these hearings have been found at one point to be indigent, yet their financial situations often are not considered when they are summoned for outstanding payments

It’s important to include this bit of context from the article.

I mean, look, the option for an average working class schmo, to contribute something of use to the public (such as a pint of blood) or pay their parking ticket, isn’t a bad option.

I think being creative with community service style offerings in lieu of fines or jail times for petty offenses could be a good thing.

But in context, you have people the court has previously recognized as being unable to pay and you are giving them only one alternative to jail or paying. Yeah, I’d be pretty upset.
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  flamingolingoReburnsABurningReturns
  10/20/15 1:49pm
  I don’t understand why so many people are fine with this. The courts are literally draining indigent people of their lifeblood (those whose blood is acceptable, at least). It’s grotesque. What’s next? Forcing parolees to register as organ donors as a condition of their release? Giving female inmates shorter sentences in exchange for being surrogates?
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  ReburnsABurningReturnsflamingolingo
  10/20/15 1:57pm
  Yeah.
  
  I mean, my own thoughts are that just because someone is indigent, doesn’t mean that their crimes shouldn’t be illegal and doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be required to do something in payment for committing them. Speeding, littering and a whole slew of other crimes that fit this category should most definitely be illegal, and even a rich person isn’t going to wiggle out of having to pay a fine for those crimes. We may criminalize being poor, but the proper response to that corruption isn’t to just legalize all crimes or pass some sort of income threshold for prosecution either.
  
  For me the bigger issue is that they don’t provide them with more options. Giving blood and hard-ish labor like picking up trash along the highway aren’t going to be an option for say, an elderly poor person or a sick person. But surely there are plenty of things around the community that we could find for people to do.
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benjaminalloverAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:18pm
The blood bank has reportedly “nearly all” of the units it collected from the court.

So... did they lose some of the units, or do you mean that almost all the blood they collect is from this type of “arrangement” from the court? That’s a little ambiguously written.
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  The_Incredible_Sulkbenjaminallover
  10/20/15 1:20pm
  I think there’s a word or two missing before “nearly all”
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  Don't drone me broThe_Incredible_Sulk
  10/20/15 1:23pm
  Destroyed? Returned? Drank?
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ManchuCandidateAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:16pm

Judge Wiggins’ favorite law school prof? Dr Nosferatu, who taught Demonic Law at Transylvania U. Bite’em Teeth!
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  DJ NinjahManchuCandidate
  10/20/15 1:21pm
  He's also a long time supporter of Dr. Acula's efforts to "help" the poor in his state.
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  Hollow_LogDJ Ninjah
  10/20/15 1:33pm
  
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OctoberSurpriseAndy Cush
10/20/15 2:12pm
I was wrestling with whether or not this is a well intended exercise or an example of the state trampling on the weak, and I am going with the latter. I think a better alternative would be having folks with small fines either pay or contribute to the community at large by volunteering their services for a day or two in some capacity (food bank, homeless shelters, etc).
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Deeply Moral NihilistAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:15pm
The judge was very sanguine about the offenders prospects.
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Armageddon T. ThunderbirdAndy Cush
10/20/15 5:58pm
I encourage everyone to give blood.

I also encourage beautiful women to have sex with me. What I don’t do is obligate beautiful women to have sex with me.

This judge obligated people to give blood. He was wrong.
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UncleCCClaudiusAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:55pm

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Cylontater: Genital WhispererAndy Cush
10/20/15 1:21pm

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