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nerdybirdyJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:05pm
We should just go back to the guillotine. Works 100% of the time.

(I am not a fan of the death penalty, but I am a fan of making stupid jokes.)
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  nightshadesnerdybirdy
  8/25/15 11:12pm
  Actually, the guillotine is likely a much more humane method than lethal injection. But it’s more gross to observers, and making state killings more palatable to the public is really what lethal injection is all about, not about it actually causing a quicker or more painless death. A well-administered guillotine does that just fine.
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  Gemmabetanightshades
  8/25/15 11:18pm
  
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monkeytoesJoanna Rothkopf
8/26/15 12:23am
Genuine question: Why can’t they use the same drugs we use to put dogs and cats down? Seems painless (I hope?)?
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  Bucket-O-Nothingmonkeytoes
  8/26/15 1:15am
  I’ve heard a couple different reasons why. First is that the companies that make the drugs refuse to sell them if they’d be used on humans. The drug cocktail that was used on humans initially is also impossible to use as the manufacturers refuse to sell them at all in states that have legal execution and/or any country that has legal execution. The drug cocktails now used are experimental and untested, with the people administering them guessing and trying different combos (which is why there’s been a rise in botched executions the past few years).
  
  Second is that there’s a stigma about treating people — even criminals — the same way as we do pets. It’s weird and nonsensical since the people who argue it think humans should be treated better as superior beings, but at the same time they insist on an inferior alternative.
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  kernkernkernmonkeytoes
  8/26/15 1:26am
  I may be remembering this completely incorrectly, but I think that’s what they were doing? And the drug’s European-based manufacturer wasn’t keen on it being used for such and now refuses to sell it to prisons.
  
  Someone straighten me out.
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A Small TurnipJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:25pm
That surge of leaping hope that you get in your heart when the world suddenly leans hard into sanity is such an intense rush. Those moments don’t come often enough, but when they do, they are a wondrous thing. You feel it ricocheting all around your body like a frantic hope pinball.

Because if we can halt executions in Mississippi—even temporarily—well shit, we could do anything. Our species may be able to find a way through ourselves.
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  Chuck E.A Small Turnip
  8/26/15 1:52am
  Frantic Hope Pinball is my next band’s name.
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  opheeliaA Small Turnip
  8/26/15 4:05am
  PSA: Vote in your school board elections. That's where state reps come from.
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SoyCheeseJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:15pm
I still can’t get my head around the degree that some people salivate over the idea of executing people. They can talk about “justice” as much as they like, but we all know they’re just getting off to it. It serves no practical purpose.
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  casanilSoyCheese
  8/26/15 1:06am
  You’re so right. It really makes me weep when I hear Christians advocate for it. The new covenant is about a very different relationship to God and justice, yet we are a people OBSESSED with justice. When my Christian brothers and sisters get a little hot under the collar and start preaching some “eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth,” I like to quietly remind my them about the 3 parables of Luke, repentance, and divine mercy. Being called to live like Christ actually means living like Christ, and Jesus just does not seek retribution.
  
  He’s all about the light and the love man.
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  schweddySoyCheese
  8/26/15 8:52am
  I’ve always felt the same way. If someone is removed from society, and removed from the potential to keep harming society... that’s the whole point, right? Protect society and innocents from the bastards who are likely to harm them repeatedly.
  
  ... but our prisons do that. Nearly perfectly (well, unless you privatize them and make it into a for-profit system, pay the prison workers next to nil, and provide little-to-no training... then you get situations like that escape in New York... but that’s a different rant altogether). So... what exactly is the point of the death penalty? At all?
  
  The only option left is what you outlined above: people who salivate over the idea of watching someone die, in the name of vengeance and punishment... and who are willing to part with BILLIONS and BILLIONS of tax dollars (that could be going toward, oh, say education or other programs that could actually prevent future crimes) to do so. That’s pretty horrifying.
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fuckthisshitimoutJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:05pm
Now this is the sort of activist judge I can get behind. My biggest worry is that her justification seems a bit slim...
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  Corbettofuckthisshitimout
  8/25/15 11:14pm
  Henry would seem to indicate the judge is a gentleman.
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  Assata Shakurfuckthisshitimout
  8/25/15 11:16pm
  im not sure it’s “activist” to find that something is a clear violation of not only the constitution, but the most important part of the constitution- the bill of rights. also, the judge is a he. and as he said, he will elaborate within the next few days.
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montgirlJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:40pm
“We are extremely disappointed that the federal court has frustrated the State of Mississippi’s desire to torture people to death as it has been doing for hundreds of years.” Fixed it for you.
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TheGizmofromPizmoJoanna Rothkopf
8/26/15 3:04am
I am %100 against the death penalty but I’ve always felt that if you have to then why not just put a bullet in the brain?
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  Yoga Nerd, Maybe DeadTheGizmofromPizmo
  8/26/15 9:10am
  Can also fail.
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albatross_YJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:48pm
Holy shit, Mississippi! You aren’t the last at something for once.
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HadjimuradJoanna Rothkopf
8/25/15 11:07pm
i pray for the day when executions are completely outlawed.
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Chuck E.Joanna Rothkopf
8/26/15 1:49am
I know movies aren’t reality, but I just watched The Green Mile again the other day, and how anyone can consider the electric chair to not be cruel is beyond me. That a state might go back to that from lethal injection seems crazy. To be clear, I’m against all capital punishment, but I don’t see how lethal injections can’t be made painless wih just a little more thought and science put behind it. Maybe the smart scientists and doctors don’t want to help dream up the perfect cocktail or series of drugs. We ended up with the current mix because some guy just thought it up and decided it would work: drug them, knock them out, paralyze them,, stop their heart, done.

So hey. Let’s just not do it.
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  KirstenChuck E.
  8/26/15 6:19am
  I read somewhere that the most humane way of killing someone is to put them in a sealed room and gradually remove the oxygen. If you remove the carbon dioxide too, they don’t feel like they’re suffocating and there’s no distress - they just pass out and then die with no awareness of it.
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  stretchierpantsChuck E.
  8/26/15 7:36am
  It’s because the states that execute people are largely doing it without the support of scientists, doctors and pharmaceutical suppliers as they don’t want to legitimise executions.
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